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Have you driven a higher end modern diesel vehicle? Such as a Mercedes?

If the answer was yes, you wouldn't have made that statement.

I have driven modern Toyota and Audi TDI's. Not the same feel!(IMO)
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Only the SRTs are "performance suvs" the standard hemi is slow and I would rather have the range of a diesel.
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

The US has the cheapest petrol in the world, due to the massive demand for it. If Americans were paying the same for petrol as the rest of the world the diesel would all of a sudden become a much more attractive proposition.

No serious touring or off road rig in Australia is petrol powered. The advantages of range, towing ability a torque far outweigh anything a petrol engine can offer.
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

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The US has the cheapest petrol in the world, due to the massive demand for it. If Americans were paying the same for petrol as the rest of the world the diesel would all of a sudden become a much more attractive proposition.

No serious touring or off road rig in Australia is petrol powered. The advantages of range, towing ability a torque far outweigh anything a petrol engine can offer.
Diesel costs more than regular gas (87 octane) in the US. In Canada, diesel is the cheapest form of fuel.
However, the cheapest gas is not in the US as you might think. Here are a few current prices of the world...per gallon.

US .......$4
France..$5.55
Brussels ...$10.11
Saudi Arabia...$0.45
Kuwait....$0.78
And the lowest in the world.....Venezuela....$0.11 per gallon !!!
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wow......11 cents......LOL
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

While the price of Gas in the USA may be less that Diesel currently, this will change over time. This is because the rest of the world is putting pressure on the USA to start to tow the line with the rest of the world and get mroe fuel efficient and environmentally responsible.
Rather than having 1/2 the population running in large v8's and chewing up gas like water, they will slowly push people over to efficient CRD motors.
90% of people do not care for the type of fuel their vehicle uses, they usually just have preconceived opinions based on hearsay and Bullshit.
My v6 CRD has a great sound to the motor when you wind it up and has the same driving feel as a petrol.
I just hope that the USA embraces the CRD GC when it is released, as it is a great car/motor combo.
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This is because the rest of the world is putting pressure on the USA to start to tow the line with the rest of the world and get mroe fuel efficient and environmentally responsible.
That is BS right there.
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

What is BS about it ?
Unlike the USA, the rest of the world is working against stuffing up the planet.
The new emission laws will just keep getting tougher and it will directly affect gas guzzlers.
Like it or not, the world is changing and everyone will be expected to do their bit.
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

There will never be a sound as sweet as a burbling V8. A very small piece of me wishes I got the Hemi, but realistically it is old technology and is on the decline. Car companies in Australia are falling over themselves to put a CRD model in their line up because if they don't they lose market share, This was evidenced with the Ford Territory the Aussie Ford SUV. It is now enjoying record sales. When you get a chance go for a test drive with an open mind, you'll be surprised.
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

VW Touareg TDI is a perfect example. I like to encourage people to think just as much as the next guy but to flat out make things up is kind of silly. What country sent the VW TDI packing until it met stricter emissions compliance?
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

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Spoken like someone who has never driven a modern diesel.



If the regional VP I work for can drive a Mercedes Diesel so can your wife. He never smells like diesel fuel. (not that I check to see what he smells like on a regular basis lol).

I enjoy filling up diesel at dirty truck stops! Diesel is cheaper and the big rigs always yell at you that you are putting diesel in your jeep!!!! I have a commercial fuel card from my buddy and pay 5% cheaper then retail!
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

This is a pretty hilarious exchange.

Like it or not, our two countries could stop burning fuel altogether and world pollution would still continue. Developing nations don't give two shits about pollution, as restricting it hinders aggressive manufacturing development.

I'm a huge fan of diesel, but in the grand scheme of things, Europe, USA, Aus, etc have terrific regulations in terms of emissions. Lets try not to create conflict where is does not exist.


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While the price of Gas in the USA may be less that Diesel currently, this will change over time. This is because the rest of the world is putting pressure on the USA to start to tow the line with the rest of the world and get mroe fuel efficient and environmentally responsible.
Rather than having 1/2 the population running in large v8's and chewing up gas like water, they will slowly push people over to efficient CRD motors.
90% of people do not care for the type of fuel their vehicle uses, they usually just have preconceived opinions based on hearsay and Bullshit.
My v6 CRD has a great sound to the motor when you wind it up and has the same driving feel as a petrol.
I just hope that the USA embraces the CRD GC when it is released, as it is a great car/motor combo.
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What is BS about it ?
Unlike the USA, the rest of the world is working against stuffing up the planet.
The new emission laws will just keep getting tougher and it will directly affect gas guzzlers.
Like it or not, the world is changing and everyone will be expected to do their bit.
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