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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

I just want to dust people from a JEEP lol!

And the fuel range is quite nice.

-Think there be programmer support for this motor? Friends have programmed their VW TDI's and seen almost double HP(exaggeration, but ya get me) so pay a little dollar for a programmer and it would beat the 5.7 Hemi. I know guys with lifted Dodge 2500 Cummins that could pull away from your "0-60 in 7 second," so I'm sure a jeep(with tuner support) could easily do the same.
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

My question is- if Americans did not buy a Grand Cherokee with Mercedes Diesel in 2007 & 2008 (the same 3.0 CRD engine now sold in Mercedes) why will they buy a Fiat CRD Grand Cherokee in 2013 or 2014?
What has changed?
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

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My question is- if Americans did not buy a Grand Cherokee with Mercedes Diesel in 2007 & 2008 (the same 3.0 CRD engine now sold in Mercedes) why will they buy a Fiat CRD Grand Cherokee in 2013 or 2014?
What has changed?
A lot has changed. With each passing year diesels become more and more accepted by Americans. Fuel prices are higher, people have sat through this terrible economy longer...outlook has changed.
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

LJS, that is what is being said.
I do not know if enough in the world has changed for the USA to embrace CRD. How well do the Euro maker's Diesels sell in the USA ?

I am not trying to cause conflict, only debate. Yes I drive a CRD and I am very happy with my decision. In the USA you will soon have the choice like I did, I am more curious as to the reasons people do not want this motor.

As for the rest of the world's pollution, the USA still is the highest user of Petroleum per head in the world.
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Advertising. I never saw a commercial for the jeep CRD
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

This diesel is also better. If you YouTube "jeep CRD" the first video is a motortrend review of an '07 Jeep WK CRD.

The new diesel has more torque, and better gas mileage.

PS the '07 they tested did 0-60 in 8 seconds flat, completely stock and with less torque than the newer model.
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

The old Merc diesel was a fairly expensive option and the fuel economy gains werent enough to make up for it. I think at 06 prices the break even point was around 100k miles.

Diesels also have a much better reputation this time around, several audi, vw and mercedes diesels sell well and its now considered a cleaner alternative to gas (see A3 tdi winning green car of the year)

I think the US is finally ready for passenger diesel, with chrysler planning several and chevy dropping one into the Cruze.
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

Many of you make good points, there was little if any advertising and the CRD option was costly. Also I think the Liberty with a smaller diesel sold fairly well.

In 2007, at least the Chicago area diesel fuel cost was , If I remember correctly 10 to 20% cheaper. Also this is the same engine sold in todays Mercedes so I do not think its considered out of date, yet!
In 2008 the split between Chrysler & Mercedes was also becoming apparent. If Jeep had heavily advertised it the public would think it was a Jeep engine. Its possible Mercedes may not have wanted to loose credit for their brand new 3.0 CRD (Wards engine of the year). At the time there were rumors about Mercedes putting certain limits on jeep.
I do hope the diesel does sell well, it is a good option for a Jeep, off road the torque is great.
It's my understanding Fiat is putting a big effort into it, spreading it to all vehicles. That should help spread the word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM642_engine
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Jeep Grand Cherokee WK (20051-20072-2008)
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Mercedes-Benz E320 CDI (2007-present)
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

People probably didn't buy the CRD Jeep for the same reason I bought the ML CDI back in 2007....An '07 Overland CRD listed for over $46k and the dealers AND Chrysler were pigs. The gassers had several thousands in rebates and the diesels had almost none...On top of that, the residuals on the WK were crap, so to spend that kinda loot for an engine was just not smart. I think I paid $51k for the MB, and car for car (at that time) , the MB was a better package, returning way more than the $6k delta when I sold it...
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

To the previous post..it is actually NOT the same engine that is sold today. In 2007 MB brought in the CDI (common rail/ direct injection)..This engine was not 50 state compliant. By 2008, the CDI/ CRD was not available in most of the northeast region as well as California, due to these states adopting the strict California emmissions standards. This happened much to the dealers upsetment, as MB was selling EVERY CDI car they could get. I actually purchased one of the last new 2007 CDI cars sold in Connecticut.
As a result, several key markets were left without the ability to purchase a new deisel.
In late 2008, the latest offering was launched, known as Bluetech "technology"...most MB models have forfieted their spare tires so that a urea tank could be added to aid in "purifying" the tailpipe emmissions.
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

I read saw in the motortrend video that it was only 45 state legal.

So will the new diesel have this blue tech with an exhaust purifier?

And how are all these diesel trucks goin around black smoking everything and they are legal?
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Re: Diesel Grand Cherokee Coming to US!

I read saw in the motortrend video that it was only 45 state legal.

So will the new diesel have this blue tech with an exhaust purifier?

And how are all these diesel trucks goin around black smoking everything and they are legal?
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