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Old 02-13-2012, 02:12 AM
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

@John, while I agree about both being suitable, I figure if I had problems Jeep may use it as a weasel clause to deny a warranty repair, so I went with what it specified.

Too early to tell Swampy, I only did it yesterday and did not drive it, only ran it on the driveway.
My wife would have NFI about any difference. It did sound less diesel when it warmed up, so I guess it may make a small difference.
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Enforcer, how did the oil seem that you replaced?
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

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I changed the oil in My 2011 Australian Spec CRD today and did a full write up with pictures for everyone to enjoy. Please do not try this at home if you are not familiar with this type of work.
I am open to questions or comments on how it can be improved.
Thanks for that, however I would like to add a couple of points:
  1. I understand the Jeep is metric although I haven't worked on one (yet). The US auto industry, military and aerospace industry has gone metric. It seems their government think the rest of the population are not exactly rocket scientists and therefore not yet ready
  2. The copper washer should be changed. That was standard practice on my other cars. It crushes and acts as a seal. However, in a pinch I have used old ones. I will definitely leak without any washer at all which happened once when I had a dealer do the oil change
  3. Few people wear out engines these days but nevertheless I'm paranoid about using the right grade and highest API rating oil I can get but I ignore the advertising hype.
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@John, while I agree about both being suitable, I figure if I had problems Jeep may use it as a weasel clause to deny a warranty repair, so I went with what it specified.
I definitely second that!!

As I noted before I intend to supply my own oil to the dealer (Shell Helix Ultra Extra 5W-30 - if he will agree) and will request that the oil spec be noted on the service docket.
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

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Enforcer, how did the oil seem that you replaced?
The oil was dirty and looked a lot older than the 6,000km I had on the car. It is not uncommon for a new motor to have such dirty oil. I am no expert with modern diesels, but the oil did have a burnt smell as well.

@BobT, I read somewhere on one of the forums that said that the car is not entirely metric, but as mentioned I have both AF and metric tools, so it did not affect me.

I take your point on the copper washer, and did look in my box of bits for a new one, but had none. This is why I stressed to clean the washer, plug and sump to ensure a clean seal. In any ordinary situation, I would have replaced it. Funny the dealer did not mention it when I bought the filters, and also why they did not come with one. After I get a bit more feedback, I will modify the document to keep it up to date. It was a bit late after I saw the washer, but that is the fun part of discovering how things are done.
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I definitely second that!!

As I noted before I intend to supply my own oil to the dealer (Shell Helix Ultra Extra 5W-30 - if he will agree) and will request that the oil spec be noted on the service docket.
Is $15/Litre normal price for this stuff?
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@BobT, I read somewhere on one of the forums that said that the car is not entirely metric, but as mentioned I have both AF and metric tools, so it did not affect me.
Drat! I'll just have to use a shifter on the AF stuff. We got rid of our AF tools when dad got rid of his last old Holden.
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

Bob, do not take my word as gospel, as I only read it on the "Internet".
I also did not try both, I just used what fitted.
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Is $15/Litre normal price for this stuff?
Yep - at least from Supercheap @ retail.....
I saw posted elsewhere that one dealer price for oil was $29/l. Info was that oil was Castrol Edge Professional OE-X Professional 5W-30.

After doing a bit of research on the oil requirements for these late model Euro diesel engines I believe it is extremely important that the correct oil is used - see my earlier link if you have time to poodle around.
I selected the Shell because it complies (and mentions) the Chrysler spec MS 11106 as well as VW 504 and 507, plus I can readily get it.
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Very informative, thanks for taking the time to show us all how it can be done.
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Jeep stuck a castrol sticker on my car to remind my of the next service time frame.. so sounds like the Chrysler deal that was done.
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Yep - at least from Supercheap @ retail.....
I saw posted elsewhere that one dealer price for oil was $29/l. Info was that oil was Castrol Edge Professional OE-X Professional 5W-30.

After doing a bit of research on the oil requirements for these late model Euro diesel engines I believe it is extremely important that the correct oil is used - see my earlier link if you have time to poodle around.
I selected the Shell because it complies (and mentions) the Chrysler spec MS 11106 as well as VW 504 and 507, plus I can readily get it.
Be careful with that. The engine oil spec for the 3L CRDs is SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Engine Oil meeting Chrysler Material Standard MS-11106 OR Mercedes Benz MB 229.51 AND ACEA C3. So it has to meet either MS-11106 or MB 229.51 but it also has to meet ACEA C3. I couldn't find many oils that confirmed meeting MS-11106 but heaps that met MB 229.51. However, when you then also include the ACEA C3 requirement, the numbers shrink dramatically. This is the quick list I've come up with:
  • bp Visco 7000 5W-30
  • Castrol SLX Professional OE 5W-30
  • Castrol Edge Professional OE-X 5W-30
  • Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30
  • Pennzoil Platinum Low SAPS
  • Pennzoil Platinum VX
  • Pennzoil Ultra Euro L
  • Shell Helix Diesel Ultra AB-L
  • Shell Helix Diesel Ultra Extra
  • Shell Helix Ultra Extra
  • Total Quartz INEO MC3 5W-30
  • Valvoline SynPower MST 5W-30
This list is rough and ready. You will have to confirm the suitability yourself. Also it is likely some of these are not available in your local market. This is just to show that in the case of our CRDs, oils certainly ain't oils!
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