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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

The Nulon Long life Diesel Oil that I used also has both MB229.51 & ACEA C3, just to avoid any confusion.
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

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The Nulon Long life Diesel Oil that I used also has both MB229.51 & ACEA C3, just to avoid any confusion.
Thanks for that Enforcer. I was going from the Merc sheet at http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.51_de.html . I think Nulon must be solely Aussie brand.
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

Have to ask the question.. manual states

"that meet the requirements of Chrysler Material
Standard MS-11106, and that are approved to
Mercedes Benz MB 229.31 or MB 229.51 and
ACEA C3."

So in the electronic manual it outlines AND not OR.. I only have 5 pieces of photocopied paper..

so this says that MS-11106 is more a restrictive set than "MB 229.31 or MB 229.51 and
ACEA C3". So does anybody know what additional requirements does MS-11106 require?

BTW Mobil1 Esp confirms meeting MS-11106.. not sure where to buy it btw.

http://www.mobil.com/Australia-Engli...ula_5W-30.aspx

Something like this without contacts..

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mobil-1-E...ht_2462wt_1163
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

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Have to ask the question.. manual states

"that meet the requirements of Chrysler Material
Standard MS-11106, and that are approved to
Mercedes Benz MB 229.31 or MB 229.51 and
ACEA C3."

So in the electronic manual it outlines AND not OR.. I only have 5 pieces of photocopied paper..

so this says that MS-11106 is more a restrictive set than "MB 229.31 or MB 229.51 and
ACEA C3". So does anybody know what additional requirements does MS-11106 require?

BTW Mobil1 Esp confirms meeting MS-11106.. not sure where to buy it btw.

http://www.mobil.com/Australia-Engli...ula_5W-30.aspx

Something like this without contacts..

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mobil-1-E...ht_2462wt_1163
I went down this path as well......and ended with the decision to go with the Shell Helix Ultra Extra 5w-30,
a) spec states it complies with MS-11106
and b) it is readily available - to me at least.
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

Thanks another good choice.. are you using a cheaper public source than repco/supercheap?
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

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Thanks another good choice.. are you using a cheaper public source than repco/supercheap?
Unfortunately I am still in theory mode.....having been unloaded in Aus on 10 February, our Jeep is in the clutches of AQIS at Port Brisbane and with no projected clearance date.
Mid March estimate for delivery by dealer, then we have to accumulate the oil change km before I actually need to buy oil - there's enough stuff to be fitted on the garage bench already waiting now... we've got a 4,500km return trip to Vic with the van in the offing as soon as we can get hitched up so shouldn't take long to get to an oil change.
The oil is on the shelf at Supercheap at $75/5l and within 5 min drive for me. I might make some phone calls around the time but not worth travelling too far to save mb 5 or 10 dollars. I'm more than happy with the Shell especially as it complies with VW, BMW, and MB long life requirements.
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

John do you intend doing your own oil changes? or just supply the oil.

I was going to supply but I can easily change oil just worried if something goes wrong in the engine, how do I prove I used the correct oil at the correct intervals?

If supplied I hope they use what I supply... maybe getting overly worried for nothing..
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

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John do you intend doing your own oil changes? or just supply the oil.

I was going to supply but I can easily change oil just worried if something goes wrong in the engine, how do I prove I used the correct oil at the correct intervals?

If supplied I hope they use what I supply... maybe getting overly worried for nothing..
Yep, I could also easily change the oil, but long term I am looking to establish a relationship with the service department so happy to invest a bit towards that, so will give the service away but supply the oil. (bearing in mind they haven't agreed yet!!)
I am a bit cynical and have a nagging doubt that the dealer will have a "one size fits most" approach to the oil - if I supply the best I can get and have it documented on the service record then hopefully I'll have covered all bases.
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

Enforcer.
I have just drained my 3.0, about 9.0L. It had its first change at 5600k, done by a dealer now 10400 but has been towing. I have had problems determining the oil level when cold as it always appears to be on the min mark. Reinsert and it reads overfull. Rang dealer this arvo and was told sump capacity inc filter is 9.8L.
Yours is the best advice so far but it would be nice to have it in the owner doco.
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

Doug why the change at 5600K by the dealer? Also seems you dealer is happy for you to do all or some of your changes?
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

I'm as paranoid as anyone about correct oils in my baby but then I don't know anyone who has ever worn out a modern engine, so perhaps I'm a bit over the top. Anyway, diesels have a reputation for keeping on keeping on. This is because the fuel itself has lubricating properties that petrol doesn't. So I wouldn't be too concerned about the dealer using the right oil provided he is reputable and Chrysler accredited. Nevertheless, if I'm doing my own oil changes, the oil will be on spec or better regardless of the price.
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Re: ENFORCER'S Oil Change Guide for a 2011 VM Motori CRD

First change was after a lot of short haul and then extended towing, we were interstate and I was not confident about DIY because of uncertainty of how much oil was in it. Enforcers capacity for his vehicle and mine are vastly different, 8.1L to 9.8L I carry a 6.0L drain pan. If you are capable of doing basic DIY then dealers are for warranty work only but after this latest effort I wonder. As I have said some concrete reference material would work wonders.
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