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Old 10-19-2015, 12:09 PM
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

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You would be surprised how often it happens actually.

All you blokes who have your brains in gear are overlooking the aged, mechanically incompetent, forgetful and maybe people with a degree of dementia.

Seems to me that if you don't have the answer to a specific question you're better off staying out of it instead of trying to boost your egos at someone else"s expense

A friend of mine did this recently. Hyundai i30 turbo diesel. She got about 5 mins down the road before it stopped. Towed to the dealer who drained the tank, flushed the lines and filled it with diesel. No damage. Just a hit to the ego.

And she is a very bright woman. Switched on. So, no aging, dementia or general dopiness. It can happen to anyone. It's called "distraction" which is what it was here.

Anyway, we have high flow truck bowsers and the "normal" diesel ones. The truck ones have a larger nozzle. Do these fit into the Jeep's filler? I use them on our i30 and Holden Captiva.




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Old 10-19-2015, 11:28 PM
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

No, the larger truck ones don't fit and will probably blow back at you even if you try to trickle fuel in. Even the small high flow ones require a hand numbing degree of control to avoid oily shoes.

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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

ooohhh! I had one of those experiences! When I first got the jeep they didn't fill it up with fuel! (thanks Essendon jeep!!)


back to the story, I didn't know that truck diesel is different to normal diesel, seeing my dads mitsu would take any. tried putting in the high flow diesel thinking it will be quicker to fill up! hell no! I sprayed me, my dad, the pump and the bnew jeep with diesel!!!


the car smelt like diesel for the next few days!
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Old 10-24-2015, 07:09 PM
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

What's the difference between "normal" and truck diesel? I've been filling our i30 and Captiva from the hi flow diesel "truck" bowser for quite a while. Unfortunately, the Jeep doesn't allow you to do this. The filler pipe has a narrow diameter and only allows the normal nozzle.
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

There are reports I've never seen properly confirmed that there's a different "car" grade with more additives for cleaning.

I just want the fuel to be free of sh!t

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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

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There are reports I've never seen properly confirmed that there's a different "car" grade with more additives for cleaning.

I just want the fuel to be free of sh!t

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No difference in the diesel.
Different nozzle sizes, and flow rates.
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

Diesel #2 or even #1 are the same at both the truck or car pumps. My Class A motorhome is filled at the truck pumps and my GC is filled at the car lanes. Some stuff but be sure to find a car station that sees a decent amount of diesel traffic or the fuel can get algae and water in it...especially in warm moist climates.

I tend to buy my car diesel at stations near a freeway since one would assume a higher volume of all fuels there. Many smaller motorhomes with diesel engines and many pickups would tend to fill there on trips.

Diesel is pretty much the same as refined...it can get contaminated once it is in the ground tanks which is why the GC fuel filter needs to be watched carefully....carry a spare on long trips in case you fill up from a contaminated fuel tank...no real way to tell until it is done.
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Old 12-11-2015, 06:52 PM
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

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Diesel is pretty much the same as refined...it can get contaminated once it is in the ground tanks which is why the GC fuel filter needs to be watched carefully....carry a spare on long trips in case you fill up from a contaminated fuel tank...no real way to tell until it is done.
How easy is it to replace the fuel filter? And if you get a tank full of crap, how many fuel filters do you need before it's cleansed?

Or do you get the tank emptied and refilled with (hopefully) clean fuel?
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

It's not that hard, but they are under the vehicle near the fuel tank, not under the bonnet.
There are two, in the same housing.
If you contaminate the tank, it will need to be drained.
Do not turn the ignition on, the primary fuel pump is electric, although unlikely it can pump anything because the system would be primed, don't take the risk of circulating.
After dropping the filters, then you could turn on the ignition and pump out the tank. Hopefully not 95l.
Obviously allow for catching and disposing correctly whatever fuel you take out.
Replace the filters, close up and put good fuel in.
Turn ignition on, wait, and off for a few cycles to reprime and then attempt a start.
http://www.wk2jeeps.com/engine/2012_...uel_filter.pdf
All good.
Changing fuel filters will not remove petrol (gasoline) from diesel.
If you contaminate with water, it can be drained from the filter housing, although it will only collect slowly and may take many attempts to get it all - depending on the primary pump pickup.
As previously mentioned, good practice to have a couple of spare filters down beside the spare tyre.
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

That is cool that water can be drained and it has a sensor. Why do they advise to remove the transmission skid plate? I dont think mine block's access to the filters.
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Old 12-28-2015, 08:51 PM
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

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There are reports I've never seen properly confirmed that there's a different "car" grade with more additives for cleaning.

I just want the fuel to be free of sh!t

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here is a product data sheet for BP Ultimate Diesel
http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-cou...ate_Diesel.pdf
Yes is has additives for lubricity, detergent to clean fouled injectors and additive to reduce foaming. I've also beed told they sometimes have deodorising agent as well. However, all these additives need to be in very small qualities so as not to cause problems with the DPF's. One can't just pour in a bottle of some STP go faster gunk. From what I can make out, BP, and that probably goes for all of them, sell only one kind of diesel on the road. So truck diesel and premium diesel is the same stuff except that truck diesel comes out of a high flow nozzle with no in-line filter and premium diesel comes out of a low flow nozzle with an in-line filter. Commercial diesel may be quite another story although the basic stock is the same. BTW, I've used high flow nozzles without too much of a problem. One just has to careful to squeeze the nozzle just the right amount.
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

Bob, the high flow nozzle used on Australian high flow pumps will not fit down the neck of the capless fuel filler fitted on later models - well I've tried and can't do it!
And we also get "Alpine" diesel, (in Tasmania all year round, southern states of Australia seasonal) that doesn't deposit wax in low ambient temperatures.
I don't know what is added to stop the waxing, but I can say from experience that a low temperature morning start resulting in a wax clogged fuel filter means very cold fingers when replacing the filter element......the thing just won't start otherwise - and crawling under a JGC in frost or snow to get at them would only enhance the experience.
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