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GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

I understand the diesel fuel filler nozzle at our servos are larger than the unleaded nozzle making it hard to fill up a petrol engine car with diesel but of course, that means you can stick the unleaded nozzle into a diesel and presumably, cause major problems.

Two things i've heard to protect from this are -

1: some sort of device in the fuel system that detects a non diesel fuel and alerts and/or turns the engine off (dangerous but I guess it's going to stop anyway)

2: the vehicles filler has a device that needs to be opened by a large nozzle filler

Does the Aussie spec GC diesel have the above or something else to prevent against accidental filling?

Fairly sure you can buy a device described in #2 but not sure where.

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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

Yep we all have a brain and we put in gear and make sure you only use diesel pumps
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

Unfortunately, the brain is sometimes imperfect and good ole Caltex brand their 95/98 octane ulp and diesel 'Vortex'.
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

I tend to find that if we grab the diesel pump (we use Vortex), then we get diesel out of it and not petrol. It has worked every time so far.
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

You would be surprised how often it happens actually.
All you blokes who have your brains in gear are overlooking the aged, mechanically incompetent, forgetful and maybe people with a degree of dementia.
Seems to me that if you don't have the answer to a specific question you're better off staying out of it instead of trying to boost your egos at someone else"s expense
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

Thanks Blackadder, my wife is paranoid about accidentally putting petrol in hence the question.

The fuel companies obviously protect petrol users from putting diesel in by using a smaller nozzle and requiring a push of the chrome handle to operate the diesel pump, other car manufacturers add the filler pipe device to their diesel powered vehicles so thought m y question was reasonable.

Pick the GC up today so I'll find out myself.
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

I agree that it's a fair question Kizz, unfortunately I am unable to help.
It's a shame though, that many forums that were designed to help, are being taken over by a "boys club" mentality that has the effect of driving away the very people that need it the most.
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

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Seems to me that if you don't have the answer to a specific question you're better off staying out of it instead of trying to boost your egos at someone else"s expense
Not trying to boost anyone's ego, or take the piss either. I was being completely serious. The risk of damage is so high, that the person filling, especially if they actually own the vehicle should be paying attention to what they are doing.
There are two stickers warning to use diesel only, one on the door, one right next to the nozzle. This should stick out like dogs balls the first couple of times you use it. Hell, 15 months later it still grabs my attention.
Not paying attention and handling volatile liquids don’t mix.



One more thing you need to be aware of, and it caught my wife out on the first fill, are truck diesel bowser's. Some are not so clearly marked as being high flow and can lead to being blasted with diesel as the high flow rate is more than our fillers can handle.

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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

You definitely need to be focused on the task when selecting between explosives or combustibles for your refill.

FWIW, I'd spew if there was any device fitted to the filler which might just once make decanting fuel from a storage container difficult. The size of the filler opening already causes difficulty when out of town and fuelling from truck pumps, which are occasionally the only ones operable. Personally, too much nannying creates a new subset of problems and as such I don't subscribe to it.

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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

Thanks for spending the time to take the pictures SNUKE, much appreciated. Certainly looks hard to muck up?

I've had an Fg XR8 for 6 years that requires a min of 95 octane and haven't got the wrong juice and believe me, with that thing I visit the pumps often
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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

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Not trying to boost anyone's ego, or take the piss either. I was being completely serious. The risk of damage is so high, that the person filling, especially if they actually own the vehicle should be paying attention to what they are doing.
There are two stickers warning to use diesel only, one on the door, one right next to the nozzle. This should stick out like dogs balls the first couple of times you use it. Hell, 15 months later it still grabs my attention.
Not paying attention and handling volatile liquids donít mix.



One more thing you need to be aware of, and it caught my wife out on the first fill, are truck diesel bowser's. Some are not so clearly marked as being high flow and can lead to being blasted with diesel as the high flow rate is more than our fillers can handle.


Yes, I got caught by a high flow nozzle not marked as such on my 2015 CRD. My old Prado could handle both but one squeeze of the nozzle and the blow back of diesel all over my shoes means I will have to be more careful. I went in to advise the teller they should mark the high flow filler. Well, that wasn't in his job description was it. Mmm!


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Re: GC Diesel & fuel filler nozzle (Australia)

In my opinion the capless filler is the dumbest thing they could have done.
I've also been to pumps with only hiflow, large nozzle fillers- these simply will not fit in the filler neck on the Jeep.

I'm always VERY careful about putting the right fuel in, but never say never- a good friend was having a bad day, in a hurry, and accidentally put about two litres of petrol in his Landcruiser before he realised his mistake.
It CAN HAPPEN.

(Hopefully never to me...)

The important thing if you ever make a mistake, is to not even turn the ignition on. I'm told that's enough to do damage as fuel is pumped through the system!
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