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Old 04-05-2012, 05:26 PM
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Re: Is the diesel JGC worth the wait?

Not a problem with Fuel or repair costs.
I do not think the repair costs would be more than a petrol version.
The USA people will be very satisfied with this motor, once you all get over the stigma of owning a diesel vehicle.
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Re: Is the diesel JGC worth the wait?

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once you all get over the stigma of owning a diesel vehicle.

I'm just the opposite. I WANT the diesel. I'm not one to look at "offsetting the cost" gas vs diesel to amke the option woth it. I just want the satisfaction of better fuel eco from teh start AND that torque.

...just need to figure out when it will be available. If it's too far out I may not wait.
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Re: Is the diesel JGC worth the wait?

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It seems that repairs end up costing way more based on some research and discussions I've seen. Are the consumer based diesels in the US much more sensitive to bad fuel, or is this really not an issue? How are people in AU, etc that have had the diesel out for a year or so doing with problems/repair costs?
I dont think service or running costs are an issue for diesel engines. In OZ most diesels when looked after properly will not need anything major for 2 or 300,000 kms. How many people keep their cars longer than that? Petrol engines wear out too.
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Does anyone know if the diesel will be released in 2012 as the MY2013, or will it be released in 2013 as all the reports "say"?
The diesel will launch as a 2014 model. Production is scheduled to start as early as February 2013.
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Re: Is the diesel JGC worth the wait?

How do you know about that diesel will be available in 2014 ? What i read on Internet , it supposed to be released this year and I hoped I could get by August/ september ?
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Re: Is the diesel JGC worth the wait?

Milous knows all!

I would trust what Milous says more then anything else you read on the Internet.
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Re: Is the diesel JGC worth the wait?

^^This is truth!

I have a 2011 WK2, 6 months later i bought a VW jetta TDI for comuting... i am now in love with diesel and all that torque along with MPG. Hopefully will be looking to trade in around this time in 2014.
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Re: Is the diesel JGC worth the wait?

I am new to the forum . Who's is Milous ? Is he like the JEEP GOD ? His name certainly sound like one. Like Prometeus !
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Re: Is the diesel JGC worth the wait?

He has access to the bins at Chrysler!!!!
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Re: Is the diesel JGC worth the wait?

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I am new to the forum . Who's is Milous ? Is he like the JEEP GOD ? His name certainly sound like one. Like Prometeus !
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Don't be blasphemous.
Milous is greater than Prometeus.
He is THE JEEP GOD. He knows all, understands all, and is All-in-All when it comes to what is happening in the Jeep factory world.
Chrysler have the Hemi, and Milous is the Demi God.
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Re: Is the diesel JGC worth the wait?

I was contemplating this same thing. Before buying my Overland, I was heavily considering a Touareg TDI Executive (no cooled seats for $58k? wtf VW, and why must I spend $58k to get keyless access?!).

Anyways, I did some quick math. Right now, regular gas is 3.35 here, and diesel is 3.95 - if you figure the V6 to get about 20 combined mpg, the V8 about 16 combined, and the diesel to get 25 combined, you get roughly 17 cents per mile on the v6, 21 cents per mile on the v8 (or 22 if you run 89 @ $3.50a gallon), or 16 cents per mile on the diesel.

So basically, if you assume that the diesel costs $2k more than the v6, that means to make up that price penalty, you'd have to drive 200,000 miles. That doesn't account for the superior power of the diesel, but it also doesn't account for any of the other variables with owning a Jeep with a diesel (ie, how incompetent is your dealership - and going by the track record of previous Jeeps with diesels, you should be VERY worried about letting a Jeep tech near your truck, many CRD Jeeps died at the hands of Jeep techs being ill informed or not competent with the diesels, potential reliability concerns, etc.)

I would have been very happy with a diesel powerplant, but I wasn't willing to wait. If you're going for the frugal choice, the v6 is the way to go. In the US, we have limited supplies of diesel, and as more diesels are added, the cost delta to gasoline increases. You simply don't save enough on the backend to make up for the initial cost outlay (though the residuals argument is a very strong one, you could likely make up that difference when you sell the vehicle, but it's also possible that the residuals won't differ too much - X5 diesels don't really command much of a premium over gasoline X5s on the used market, same with Mercedes diesel SUVs).

That said, had Jeep launched the WK2 with a diesel in the US, I'd have probably bought one. But they missed their chance, and I'm not about to trade it in early on a diesel.
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Re: Is the diesel JGC worth the wait?

The CRD is more fuel efficient 32MPG from memory. This will change your figures a bit, but the reason to get the CRD is the way the motor performs. Better economy than a V6 and better power delivery than the Hemi.
It is the motor of choice in Australia and our Diesel is also more expensive by about 6-10%.
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