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Re: Is the diesel really worth it????

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You'll also get more in resale so it won't cost that much more.
so the lease will be cheaper, count me in.
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Re: Is the diesel really worth it????

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so the lease will be cheaper, count me in.
It might be unless Ally has a lower residual for the diesel.
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Re: Is the diesel really worth it????

For me, since I drive most of my miles on the highway (and a lot of them) and the diesel engine often gets better economy than rating in real life, it would be the ideal solution for my needs because I also need the higher towing capacity for my horse trailer. (which is why I have the Hemi right now) If I could goose my highway mileage to close to 30 or better from the 20-21 I get now, that's a significant benefit, even with diesel fuel costing a lot more than regular gas. So I could have better fuel economy than I had with my '06 Highlander Hybrid Limited (27 hwy, and also have the towing need covered. Works for me and will likely be a serious consideration when I do my next "refresh" a few years out.
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Re: Is the diesel really worth it????

In my mind.....no.
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Re: Is the diesel really worth it????

I have to admit......I don't understand why diesel fuel is so much more expensive here I the US as opposed to Europe and Canada. At a local Gulf station, today, regular was $3.44 and diesel was $3.99. Isn't diesel fuel less expensive to produce as it requires much less refining?
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Re: Is the diesel really worth it????

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I have to admit......I don't understand why diesel fuel is so much more expensive here I the US as opposed to Europe and Canada. At a local Gulf station, today, regular was $3.44 and diesel was $3.99. Isn't diesel fuel less expensive to produce as it requires much less refining?
Per gallon taxes on diesel are higher in the US than for gasoline. Diesel price is also driven up due to heating oil demand in the winter.
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Re: Is the diesel really worth it????

Constant demand is the reason for the price gouge. A company I work with burns 7000 gallons a week regardless of price...they need the fuel to get their work done. Total BS.
I bought an ML diesel back in 07. Diesel was five buck a gallon then. I went from a Range Rover that got 12 mpg on a downhill trip to a constant 25 plus mpg regardless of the driving conditons. Diesels are great,but they are not the ones from yesterday.
Tier 4 emissions requirements are to thank for that. I gotta see the new Summit in person to make a final decision o consider an upgrade. So far, from what I have seen, I am not impressed.
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Re: Is the diesel really worth it????

This may turn out like the V6 vs V8 debate. Or, is the Summit worth it over a Limited etc.? We all have reasons for personal choice and that's good that we have choice.
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Re: Is the diesel really worth it????

Personally, I am leaning towards the CRD but have not ruled out the V6 gasser. Now that they have upped the tow rating for the pentastar, I think it will come down to what the new 8 speed does as far as real world get up and go.

Last fall, I test drove a GC v8/6 speed combo and also a VW Toureg TDI 3.0 liter diesel in the same day. There was no comparison, the diesel got out of its own way while the hemi felt sluggish. Between the hemi and the CRD, the CRD is going to be a no brainer, especially as they should be very similarly priced.

Also, keep in mind that fuel oil heating is on the way out with the natural gas boom currently going on in the US and EPA regs for industrial users. That fact and fleet users exploring alternate fuels, I would expect highway diesel to go down in price over the next few years relative to gas.
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Re: Is the diesel really worth it????

If the diesel doesn't sell well enough expect it to become an option for the Laredo. Suspect fleets can get in them if wanted they may just not want retail customers buying Laredos.

BTW ultra-low-sulpher is a cost driver for diesel.

I'm still trying to figure out the same MPG for all V6 but then never understood how a 2wd Laredo could have the same highway mpg as a 4x4 Durango.
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Re: Is the diesel really worth it????

Well, here's what my expereince has been:

My 2009 WK 3.7:
It's estimated at 15 City/20 Highway with a combined cycle of 18MPG.
I'm getting 15.4MPG in Seattle driving (Combined) and 23 Highway.

My Mercedes Benz E320 CDI:
It's estimated at 23 City/33 Highway with a combined cycle of 27MPG.
I was getting 31MPG in Seattle driving (Combined) and 38 Highway (traded it last year)

It has, thusly, been my experience, that gas engines usually come in at the lower end of the EPA estimate in real world combined driving, where as diesels surpass the EPA estimates.
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