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Re: It's On For 2013

Why is diesel more expensive in usa? In europe diesel is way cheaper than petrol, ( i live in the netherlands , petrol is about $8,63 a gallon here, Diesel "only" $6,28)
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Re: It's On For 2013

In Aus they are pretty much same price.

91 (lowest) Octane Petrol - $1.40 per liter
98 (high octane) Octane Petrol - $1.50ish per Liter
Diesel - $1.45 per Liter
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I'm still missing something here as to why this diesel is getting everyone all excited.
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Re: It's On For 2013

The motor is awesome, better economy and Hemi power levels.
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Re: It's On For 2013

I believe there is less maintenance with a diesel. CRD owners add corrections here if that has changed. For towing, you can't beat a diesel. They will also outlast a gas engine. Some of the old trucks fron the eighties are still chugging along with 250,000+ miles on them. I have a diesel tractor. It has a little 18HP engine that will put a gas engine to shame when it comes to load capability and fuel economy.

There is really no valid reason for the high price of diesel fuel other than the fact that they can get away with it. For years unrefined fuel oil and diesel were substantially lower in price than gasolone, so what happened? Not to get into an off topic discussion of fuel prices, I believe you can still save money with diesel vs. gas after a few years of ownership. If you are the type to keep the CRD for many years, the savings would increase exponentially. Of course, who knows, by then we may have an entirely new fuel source.
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Re: It's On For 2013

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I'm still missing something here as to why this diesel is getting everyone all excited.
Great fuel economy, huge range, massive torque at low rpm, purrs along below 2000 rpm at 80 mph - what's not to get?
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Higher cost per gallon, noisy, hard to find a station that carries Diesel in a pinch, higher costs- whats to get exited over?
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Re: It's On For 2013

The excitement is massive torque/instant-on power, great MPG's/700+ mile range. Higher cost, less availability, higher maintenance are the drawbacks. Noise is reported to be well controlled. If I could do my Pentastar purchase over I'd go for the Hemi but can't go back in time. Going forward I'll take the CRD over the Hemi and accept the trade-offs.
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Higher cost per gallon, noisy, hard to find a station that carries Diesel in a pinch, higher costs- whats to get exited over?
They aren't noisy at all. Higher cost per gallon but still less costly to run than the V6. If it costs the same as the Hemi, it doesn't cost more to me...
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Re: It's On For 2013

There are two main reasons diesels is more expensive in the US and as compared to gasoline:
1) diesel has a higher federal tax rate 24.4 cents per gallon versus 18.4 cents. This is historically because diesels were more common with commercial cargo vehicles and by having a higher tax rate they are effectively paying for their excess wear and tear on the highways. state tax rates vary.
2) in 2007, the US adopted a much cleaner formulation for diesel fuel. The refineries are saying that this costs more to produce and the new equipment was required to adhere to the new standards. The good thing is that with new standards, US diesel vehicles are cleaner than Australian or European diesels even with equivalent engines and they are similar in polluting chemicals to gasoline engines.

I am very excited to see a diesel Jeep. More power with less emissions and better fuel economy. With modern diesels, the noise complaints are generally untrue. We have had diesel jettas for years and love them.
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Re: It's On For 2013

dammit, i should have waited. oh well, its something to look forward to, either that or the SRT8
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OK, you are starting to sway me toward the diesel, but I'm not there yet. How much is the upcharge over the 6 cylinder compared to the 8 cylinder charge?
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