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Re: It's On For 2013

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OK, you are starting to sway me toward the diesel, but I'm not there yet. How much is the upcharge over the 6 cylinder compared to the 8 cylinder charge?
We don't know yet. In Australia the new VM Motori CRD and the HEMI are costing about the same price.
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We don't know yet. In Australia the new VM Motori CRD and the HEMI are costing about the same price.

I bet you in the US that the diesel is at least $5000 more than the V6 offering.
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Re: It's On For 2013

Why do you believe it will be 5K more? I suppose it's possible but I don't see Jeep selling many with an uplift like that. Even at $5US/gallon you can buy a lot of gas for a Hemi before you'd come close to breaking even on the CRD.
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Re: It's On For 2013

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We don't know yet. In Australia the new VM Motori CRD and the HEMI are costing about the same price.

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I bet you in the US that the diesel is at least $5000 more than the V6 offering.




If the Hemi and diesel are at the same price range in
Australia the difference would be $1,500 + or - !
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Why do you believe it will be 5K more? I suppose it's possible but I don't see Jeep selling many with an uplift like that. Even at $5US/gallon you can buy a lot of gas for a Hemi before you'd come close to breaking even on the CRD.
Just a guess considering that in 2008 {the last time a diesel was offered by Jeep} the Hemi upgrade cost $645 and the Diesel upgrade cost almost 3 times that much at $1655.
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Higher cost per gallon, noisy, hard to find a station that carries Diesel in a pinch, higher costs- whats to get exited over?
Most gas stations along an interstate highway has diesel along gas stations out in the country.

However to overcome the higher cost of gas, the WK2 need to put now some good EPA numbers.
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The improved range of the diesel would also offset the difficulty one may have finding the fuel, and I'm not sure about the jeeps nav system but i think my garmin can be set to specifically find diesel stations.
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Re: It's On For 2013

I have a 2008 GC CRD with 128,000, it still runs great.
More & more diesels are coming out, mainly because of better MPG than gas. Diesel fuel in 2008 cost less than gas, at less here it was. Not anymore.

The up front cost of a diesel is more, but the backside more than makes up for it. A used 2008 GC CRD will sell for close to $10,000 more than a similar gas.
http://business.financialpost.com/20...f-the-diesels/

The range & MPG are really good.
The torque is awesome.
It sometime can be a pain to find a station, sometime the pumps are pretty messy.
While the new engines are much better I do still get some diesel smell when it idles.
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Re: It's On For 2013

I drove a demonstrator 3.0 litre diesel a week ago and it was outstanding, very responsive and truck loads of power! The one I drove was a Limited, I had checked the model out and was waiting to drive a diesel they can't import enough in Australia to keep up with sales so I've ordered a diesel Overlander. Now I have to wait 10 - 12 weeks

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Re: It's On For 2013

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Why do you believe it will be 5K more? I suppose it's possible but I don't see Jeep selling many with an uplift like that. Even at $5US/gallon you can buy a lot of gas for a Hemi before you'd come close to breaking even on the CRD.

In OZ the Lerado is $5000 extra for the diesel but I don't think there is a price difference with the Limited and Overlander, I may be wrong as I was focused on the diesel
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Re: It's On For 2013

I think the last 3.0L that we saw in a Grand Cherokee was an added 2-3K. I could be wrong on that number. I feel that Jeep would keep the cost the same....
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Re: It's On For 2013

Would not be surprised at $3k-$5k option price. Here in the US the gov is doing everything possible to discourage passenger car diesels. Do you have blue in oz ?

May be because the capacity is limited (gas stations that have diesel only have one pump for it against 8-12 for gasoline). That said it is much easier to find diesel than E85: one station in the metro Orlando area, now over 1 million residents + innumerable tourists currently $3.30/gal so 3/4 the mpg for 7/8 the price vs 87 PON.

Personally have stations with diesel within a couple of miles in three directions so finding is not an issue however the current price of regular is U$3.70, premium is U$3.90, and diesel is U$4.00/US gallon so takes an 8% hit over 87. Will need an EPA MPG rating of 18/25 just to be equal to the Pentastar.

Since the Merc ML-350 with a 3.0TD is rated at 20/27 & Jeep will probably be similar it will be lower in fuel costs than the Pentastar, $127/year difference (12k miles) or will take 11.6 years to payback a $1500 difference.

Doomsday scenario: Wonder how hard it would be to convert a flex-fuel engine to run on pure alcohol.

See also the EPA estimates.
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