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Re: maintenance costs for diesel?

BMWs and Mercedes diesels use urea in the US and are more advanced then Fiats.
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:48 PM
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Re: maintenance costs for diesel?

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BMWs and Mercedes diesels use urea in the US and are more advanced then Fiats.
This is not a Fiat engine. It uses a Fiat injection system, but it's made by VM Motori who have been making diesels since 1947. VM Motori happen to be 50/50 owned by GM and Fiat.

If you're going to call it a Fiat, then you may as well call it a Duramax.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:17 AM
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Re: maintenance costs for diesel?

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The CRD is EURO5 compliant, so this is well beyond any USA specs.
I will be surprised if they do install urea system on the US spec ones. Do not make assumptions on this very fine motor, it is very fast and advanced. Anyone who gets one will me more than impressed by the economy, power and torque.
They'll have to. Our standards are stupid. The EPA wrote them to be incredibly strict on passenger diesels, because, well, our government is easily coerced with campaign contributions and lobbying. The reason the Jetta doesn't have Urea is because it's vastly smaller and lighter.

Several diesels that require urea in the US don't have it overseas.
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Re: maintenance costs for diesel?

You would think that the information about the US spec CRD's would be available now, considering it will hit the market soon. I guess you will have to wait and see if you have this requirement. I hope that you do not, as it will not be a great selling feature if you do, but a great selling feature if you do not. As you said Merc/Audi/BMW need it in their SUV's and Jeep could use it as a great selling feature and would allow them to "Piss" on the competition
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:02 AM
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Re: maintenance costs for diesel?

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You would think that the information about the US spec CRD's would be available now, considering it will hit the market soon. I guess you will have to wait and see if you have this requirement. I hope that you do not, as it will not be a great selling feature if you do, but a great selling feature if you do not. As you said Merc/Audi/BMW need it in their SUV's and Jeep could use it as a great selling feature and would allow them to "Piss" on the competition
All the info I've seen has said it will in fact have the urea injection, and that California is the problem with their absurd CARB requirements.

I've long said that the automakers should just not sell certain vehicles in CA rather than comply with their police state policies.
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Re: maintenance costs for diesel?

I know on larger trucks (2500s, F250s+ etc...) the fuel filters were required to be changed 2x/year and they have 2 of them. One pre-fuel pump and one post-fuel pump. That runs a couple hundred bucks each time, so I've been told.

Does anyone know if the CRD such as the jeep or the VW requires that maintenance?
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Re: maintenance costs for diesel?

The fuel filters are AU$30, which is the same in US$, although you may be able to get it cheaper. Aside from the silly service prices dealers are charging (around $400) the overall cost does not seem too bad in comparison to any other car I have owned.
From what I have seen we do not need to change the fuel/air filter until 40,000km
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Re: maintenance costs for diesel?

This is interesting reading ...

http://www.mynrma.com.au/motoring/bu...UV large under

The GC Laredo V6 and CRD are cheapest large SUV to run in Australia. Based on 5 years life, with 15000kms per year.

The difference between the V6 and CRD is so small, that daily fuel price variations can see them swap places. Also, do more than 15000km/year and the CRD will stand out on its own for sure.
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No we dont. The addition of DPF's in Australia negates the requirement for Urea, or adblue as well call it here.
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No we dont. The addition of DPF's in Australia negates the requirement for Urea, or adblue as well call it here.
I wasn't aware of the issue till I read a post where someone in the States was referring to "piss tanks" . I like how they call a spade a spade. They call it Urea whereas for some stupid reason we use the euphemism Adblue, it sounds like blue loo.
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No we dont. The addition of DPF's in Australia negates the requirement for Urea, or adblue as well call it here.
Dont the US use DPF's?
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