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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

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Why they don't do it in US is it some kind lobby protecting gasoline makers? I would buy diesel GC hands down. I tried turbo diesel X5, that is really great engine for truck!
Our EPA just has an anti-diesel mindset. Diesels don't pollute more than gasoline engines, they just pollute differently. Our government is so into pushing hybrids but the reality is that diesels have been available in Europe for years that offer near hybrid MPG with less complex more proven drivetrains, just think of how much more oil we have burned up because of our anti-diesel stance. Now oil has been officially declared by our leader as "yesterdays fuel". Really ? Even though there is nothing that can compete with it on any broad scale. We restrict the use of diesels while promoting the coal-burning GM Volt (much of our electricity is still produced by coal).
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Old 02-24-2011, 02:44 PM
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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

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Our EPA just has an anti-diesel mindset. Diesels don't pollute more than gasoline engines, they just pollute differently. Our government is so into pushing hybrids but the reality is that diesels have been available in Europe for years that offer near hybrid MPG with less complex more proven drivetrains, just think of how much more oil we have burned up because of our anti-diesel stance. Now oil has been officially declared by our leader as "yesterdays fuel". Really ? Even though there is nothing that can compete with it on any broad scale. We restrict the use of diesels while promoting the coal-burning GM Volt (much of our electricity is still produced by coal).
Yeah, and the feds have a hostile approach to taxing diesel vs. gasoline. In Europe it's the other way around.

Yet, those same government officials don't mind forking out vast sums in grants and subsidies for complex electric/hybrid vehicles. Or ethanol, which causes more problems than it solves.
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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

The kicker is ... there's a decent chance that we may be able to scale up algae-based biofuel production in the next decade. Such "biodiesel" would be carbon-neutral. Sure would be nice if started switching infrastructure to vehicles that could possibly burn it.
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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

Keep in mind VM didn't go it alone on developement for this engine, if they had, I'd be worried.
Caterpillar had a of of input into this new engine, so one can only hope that the issues the Mercedes engine had have been studied and fixed.

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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

That engine is cool. If that was offered in North America I would pick it over the other two in a heart beat.
Chrysler should take a look at BMW. They offer the diesel as well as the 6 and 8.
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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

That engine doesn't look half bad. Why wouldn't they be selling it in the states? It would probably be a hit.
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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

I sure hope they bring this engine to the US. With the price of fuel increasing, it will happen and I hope my WJ makes it until then.

I see either a WK2 or X3 in my future. If really like the WK2 and if I had to replace my WJ today, I would go for Jeep with Pentastar. If when that day comes BMW offers a diesel in the X3 and Jeep does not, it will be an X3.
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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

I have my doubts they will bring this one to the US,
The 2007-2008 Grand Cherokee had the option of a Merc 3.0 v6 CRD in the Grand Cherokee. they sold very very few.
I bought one of the 2008 CRD's, it has been a great engine with 98,000 mile on it now.
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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

+1 on wanting the diesel

I'm not sure why they do not offer it in the states; there are very few autos that are diesel here that would work for a daily driver except a few by Audi and VW that are too small for my 'purpose'.

I don't get it.... I guess it's about the dealerships having to change the training and tools involved to support it? Or they wouldn't sell enough of them to move inventory? Everyone does seem to be all about 0-60 these days..

I also noticed that all diesel components are not covered by the lifetime MaxCare service contracts....

It's too bad, really... I'm still considering a WK2 but I was having a hard time justifying it with the low MPG of the V6. Now I'm in a holding pattern to order until my dealership's allotment quota resets and in the gas keeps inching higher..
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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

I'd suspect the diesel to be even closer to Hemi performance credentials (0-60 etc) than the old version.

The old Merc V6 diesel was quite a bit quicker than the 4.7L V8, and given diesel's torque copes well with the added weight of WK2, I suspect it will be quite the performer
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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

Maybe there is a chance it will be coming considering they are testing them on US roads.
What's not to love with more torque than the V8 and considerably better mileage and range than the V6. BMW, Mercedes, Audi and VW are selling plenty of them in the US.
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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

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Maybe there is a chance it will be coming considering they are testing them on US roads.
What's not to love with more torque than the V8 and considerably better mileage and range than the V6. BMW, Mercedes, Audi and VW are selling plenty of them in the US.
I have not heard others are selling well in the US, that is good news. Do know how well they are doing?
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