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Old 03-11-2011, 09:59 AM
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of course, how silly of me to use the results carefully controlled performance tests when i could just use a random 'race' on the street
I have found that printed stats in magazines are biased and not always true. Printed numbers are just that... the real test is always what happens on the street in the real world, not who paid more for advertising.
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Re: Specs and details released for WK2 diesel at Geneva

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I have found that printed stats in magazines are biased and not always true. Printed numbers are just that... the real test is always what happens on the street in the real world, not who paid more for advertising.
agreed to a point. The magazines are wrong on a lot of things.

But some race on the street is not "fact" either. I have raced people in my old 92 SHO and won when I had no business winning. There are way too many variables when on the street. I also lost a race to a Saturn sedan one day because I messed up the launch (and the road was bad, and the sun was in my eyes, and my tires were on the paint and didn't get traction, etc... ricer excuses ). I would believe the magazines more than someone on the interweb who did a street race.

A track is a different story, it greatly reduces the variables and the only real variable (but the most important one) is driver skill. I would hope that someone who pays money to go to a track would know what they are doing and could give a good idea on the performance.
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agreed to a point. The magazines are wrong on a lot of things.

But some race on the street is not "fact" either. I have raced people in my old 92 SHO and won when I had no business winning. There are way too many variables when on the street. I also lost a race to a Saturn sedan one day because I messed up the launch (and the road was bad, and the sun was in my eyes, and my tires were on the paint and didn't get traction, etc... ricer excuses ). I would believe the magazines more than someone on the interweb who did a street race.

A track is a different story, it greatly reduces the variables and the only real variable (but the most important one) is driver skill. I would hope that someone who pays money to go to a track would know what they are doing and could give a good idea on the performance.
I agree with you on this also.
But my example are two family owned vehicals. This was not a one time 'race', we mess around often.
The fact is the 3.5d in the X5 had more "umff" than that of the 328i xDrive. The printed numbers supplied by r0tor don't support this, but the pavement doesn't lie in this case.
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