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Buy a different car (other than Grand Cherokee) 4 8.00%
Buy a gas powered Grand Cherokee 12 24.00%
Consider alternatives (X5, MDX, etc) 7 14.00%
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Re: Those waiting for diesel - what will you do?

Gave up and ordered a HEMI beginning of May. I'm trading in two vehicles so waiting till fall would have cost me dearly on depreciation.

Unfortunately, entering week 7 and my jeep has not even been built yet... At least the paper is inked now so just need to watch the mileage until it gets here.
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Unfortunately for Jeep, I needed a new car in April and pulled the trigger on my BMW X5 diesel. I was really looking forward to the JGC and would have bought it then if it was available. However, I am very happy with my X5 and how it handles (it is, first and foremost, a BMW), and also with the fuel mileage. I've been averaging 24 MPG which is better than my '06 BMW 330xi and '11 Infiniti G37x (both of which are 40% lighter/smaller). I'd be interested to see what I'd get with the JGC diesel with the 8 speed...

Also, I think my wife is happier with our choice of the BMW because we won't need to take it off-road. If I had waited and got the Jeep, I would have to take it on some trails (I believe it's a condition of buying one in the first place, , right...). Maybe next time around...
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Re: Those waiting for diesel - what will you do?

Ok, from the price and spec thread, another forum member has got an X5. There is one Cayenne. So far, no ML or VWs. But it looks a lot of members have switched to Hemis.
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Re: Those waiting for diesel - what will you do?

I'm going camping in the Tahoe National Forrest at the end of July. It's hard to resist the temptation to buy a Hemi in time for that trip
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Re: Those waiting for diesel - what will you do?

I'm going to wait until they finally arrive and check them out. I don't need a new vehicle right now ( I have 3 running vehicles currently, including my '97 GC Laredo which I'm keeping for HD off-road use), but have been doing the usual "anal" research I do prior to any purchase. Thought I'd settled on a Ram last year, but didn't pull the trigger for some reason and then I read about the new GC CRD.

Back around '06 or '07, one of the Jeep engineers from the Skunkworks group brought a mildly-modified '05 CRD European former test vehicle to our annual gathering of Grand Cherokees in Moab, Grand Slam West (if you have a GC, come join us next year - stock or modifed, we run all levels of trails!). This particular '05 had been rescued from the demo heap, brought in to their shop and outfitted with a prototype mild lift (about 2" as I recall), and several of us got to drive it (more to that story, but I won't clog this thread with that ). I was really impressed, but unfortunately that first CRD version wasn't available here in Kommifornia.

So the news about this new version, CA legal, is high on my radar. I'm willing to wait until they arrive at the dealerships, so I can really check it out in person and drive one. The towing capability is of particular interest, as well as the estimated fuel mileage/consumption for a vehicle of this size. For reference, with all the mods I've done to my ZJ, with the 5.2 I only get around 11mpg on the highway.

If for some reason I don't jump on the new CRD, I'm not sure what I'll go with, but it probably will not be a Hemi; not that there's anything wrong with them, but they don't quite achieve the mileage I'm looking for in my next vehicle. And, none of the other oil-burners mentioned in this thread are what I'm looking for, either.
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Re: Those waiting for diesel - what will you do?

I am interested in Grand Slam West 2014. How do I get on a mailing list or find someway to make sure I don't miss it?

Hope to have the diesel to replace my 05 Liberty by then.
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Re: Those waiting for diesel - what will you do?

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I am interested in Grand Slam West 2014. How do I get on a mailing list or find someway to make sure I don't miss it?...
PM sent so as to not clog this thread with off-topic banter. I'll post a new thread in the appropriate sub-forum in a month or two, once we set the date for GSW 2014.

And now, back to waiting on release of the CRD...
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Re: Those waiting for diesel - what will you do?

I bought an X5 diesel a month ago.

What gets me is C&D has had JGC CRD articles in the past 2 editions and I am currently watching Motor Week test it.
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I bought an X5 diesel a month ago.

What gets me is C&D has had JGC CRD articles in the past 2 editions and I am currently watching Motor Week test it.
I get you man... Totally understand your frustration! Enjoy you new ride.
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Re: Those waiting for diesel - what will you do?

I think we have decided to bail ... Apples to oranges I know, but we will likely buy a 2014 Acura MDX. We made the mistake of driving a V-6 Jeep right after the newly redesigned MDX. I think we realized we were barking up the wrong tree the whole time with the Jeep - we won't go off road, we likely won't be towing and we just in general don't need a heavy, more truck based SUV. Trust me ... I know we are basically getting a glorified minivan. What is kind of interesting is that the Acura MDX arrived in showrooms early versus the delays we've seen in the EcoDiesel. I will be checking back to see how everyone is enjoying their diesels. Thanks for all the great information!
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Re: Those waiting for diesel - what will you do?

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I think we have decided to bail ... Apples to oranges I know, but we will likely buy a 2014 Acura MDX. We made the mistake of driving a V-6 Jeep right after the newly redesigned MDX. I think we realized we were barking up the wrong tree the whole time with the Jeep - we won't go off road, we likely won't be towing and we just in general don't need a heavy, more truck based SUV. Trust me ... I know we are basically getting a glorified minivan. What is kind of interesting is that the Acura MDX arrived in showrooms early versus the delays we've seen in the EcoDiesel. I will be checking back to see how everyone is enjoying their diesels. Thanks for all the great information!
Will the MDX be a diesel, since that's what you were waiting for?

I came from an '11 MDX because I wanted off road capability. The Jeep is quieter inside. But for on road handling the MDX is the winner, with lower center of gravity. That could be more perception because you do sit much lower. One thing you will need to get used to is loose steering, at least compared to any suv I've driven. Like anything else, after a while it feels natural.

Bottom line, if it wasn't for surf fishing I would still have my MDX. It had less than 10,000 on it.

You should be very happy with your decision, as I am with mine.



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Re: Those waiting for diesel - what will you do?

It will not be diesel as I'm sure you know. The MDX is rated at 18 city and 27 highway for the 2014 model year in a 3.5 V-6 versus the diesel's 20/28. It sounds like Acura attempted to improve their insulation and sound deadening for the new model and this seemed to be the case during our comparison test drive as well. The two are so obviously different beasts but the interior room in the 2nd seat of the MDX was much better and the seats were far more comfortable in both of our opinions. We liked the gauges of the MDX much better (which surprised me having been in many GCs prior and thinking I loved the TFT etc.)

Things we still like better about the Jeep - exterior appearance by a hair, center stack/Nav screen area. I also know the diesel will hold closer to EPA estimates above highway speeds. The Acura doesn't offer a panoramic moonroof.

Other random notes: Our loaded MDX would also likely cost $5-8k more than our loaded EcoDiesel would have when figuring discount/accessories etc. Acura pulls the optioning trick where you have to get the rear DVD if you want ventilated seats, advanced package options. We can get bright silver exterior in the MDX. The Acura has an "IFS" button that adjusts steering and shifting (Comfort/Normal/Sport).

I had a 2007 MDX and appreciated it's sportier dynamics but it's been obviously softened to fit more for females' preferences for this redesign. After driving the Jeep the missus (who has been really excited for the Jeep) said "Why would anyone buy the Jeep?" I'm not saying this should be the case for everyone but like I said I think we're just at the place where a softer ride and more car like dynamics is more what we need and want and we didn't really realize this until driving the MDX.

We are not 100% certain as of now but with the EcoDiesel out for who knows how long and the MDX available now (albeit at retail prices) and the fact we are really wanting to do something sooner than later we are leaning toward the MDX.
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