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WK2 Diesel Owners: Would you buy it again?

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#1 ·
It looks like the diesel GC is becoming a reality for the US. I was hoping it would come sooner than it has, but regardless, that is the version I am most interested in based on my driving and prior experience with diesels in Europe.

The rest of the world has had the diesel for over a year now and there seem to be very few complaints. So...

- Would you buy it again?
- Why or why not?
- How many km / miles are on your diesel WK2?
 
#2 · (Edited)
2011 Laredo CRD 24,000km
Would I buy one again, In a heart beat?
Why, smooth, quite and with so much power and torque right where you need it you'll probably get speeding fines for the first 6 months, fuel economy high way below 9L/100km,( below14L/100km towing 1.5T camper trailer), city start stop 11.5L/100km plus 800-1000km per tank, to top it all off it's 0.5 sec faster 0-100km than the hemi, in Aus same price as the hemi, what's not to love
 
#3 ·
Yep agree

Great motor

Great car

Not so good jeep Aust or he local dealers
Would most likely not buy another jeep because of the lack of customer service

But vehicle and engine very good
 
#50 ·
:mad:Totally agree their spare parts supply is very poor parts general 4 to 5 weeks no car have been waiting up to 7 weeks new car diesel JGC Overland 7 months in dealer for 3 total so far their attitude to customers needs to be in vestigated by Govt .if you see a Jeep sign keep going .
 
#10 ·
YEP!
The economy is better than all the petroleum powered small SUVs and it has plenty of guts. Out of town in the 45+mph zones on the cruise control it has never had to downchange to keep the speed up. And it doesn;t have the diesel smell that semis have.
6200km in 3 months. City, freeway and windy country roads :)
 
#11 ·
You bet I would buy one again. The thing will climb up a gum tree (550Nm). There are lot of problems with the WK2 but from what I can recall, there is not the slightest issue with the VM Motori 3L CRD itself. The biggest problem will be making enough of them. Now that I think of it, there is one issue with the engine and that is getting the right oil. It uses pretty sophisticated and pricy stuff. We Jeep Garage bloggers have deduced that the most widely available compliant oil is Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 and just a handful of other exotics. We suspect that the Mopar oil for this engine is actually the same Mobil 1. Don't trust the dealers on this, they haven't got a clue. They know diesels use different fuel and that is about their sum knowledge of diesels.
 
#18 ·
The biggest problem will be making enough of them.
The engine blocks are of compacted graphite iron manufactured in Brazil . The engine is assembled in Italy in the same province that is also home of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati and Ducati, then to Detroit. Let's hope they can keep that long supply chaining going.
 
#13 ·
Anybody that owns the wk2 oil burner also test drive an X5 35d? I am curious to get some feedback on how the power on the Jeep compared to the Twin turbo Diesel from BMW? They are pretty close on horsepower and torque.
 
#16 · (Edited)
I've driven a 30d and a 40d, but we dont get a 35d in Oz.

The 30d is very similar in performance. Which is surprising as it is a twin turbo so you would expect it to be noticeably better. The 40d though is a rocket ship in comparison to both.

You can buy 2 CRD Laredo's for the price of 1 X5 30d in Australia. You can probably get 2 CRD Overland's for the price of a X5 40d too.
 
#14 · (Edited)
I'm with all the other posters...and from Austraila all the comments are valid including the brickbats for Chrysler Jeep and their dealer network.

Our WK2 diesel is out of commission at the moment due to a fault showing high pressure on the engine fuel rail. It shut down at 100kph on the highway!!
Got carted to the nearest dealer who found a fault code relating to high pressure in the fuel rail (which the software considers catastrophic hence the engine shutdown). The fault was cleared and the engine and vehicle runs perfect again. As I consider the issue a safety one I won't take the vehicle back until the fuel rail sensor is replaced - but it comes embedded in the fuel rail......only problem is there are no spare fuel rails in Australia!
Expected delivery into Australia presently is 10 December (ridiculous) and then hopefully we get the vehicle back sometime later.
Jeep have however provided a rental vehicle in the interim and will reimburse other costs.

If there had been stock available it would have been a relatively minor issue (well sort of), and I believe just luck of the draw. I've not seen any reports of CRD engine issues.

Ours has done 12500 miles, and nearly 9000 miles of that towing a 4700 lb caravan (we call it). Awesome tow vehicle, and extremely frugal on fuel as well.

With a solid dealer network this vehicle and engine is brilliant - test drive one for yourself if possible. I'm not sure about another one yet until I can be reassured Jeep Australia can get their dealer network up to scratch.
 
#15 ·
Don't hold back. Awesome machine and you will likely enjoy better aftersales!:thumbsup:
 
#19 ·
I think that the 3.0 litre diesel coupled to the 5 speed transmission is very, very good.

I think that the 3.0 litre diesel coupled to the upcoming 8 speed transmission will be sensational.

Yes, I would definately buy another, with either 5 or 8 speed.
 
#22 · (Edited)
I;ve done 2000 ks in just over 3 weeks. Awesome is the only word to use, I had the loan of a 300C SRT8 when the jeep went in for it's check up. That engine would be the only thing that competes with the diesel.
 
#23 ·
12,000km on my 3.0 limited and I absolutely love it. Around 8 litres/100km on the highway, 10.5 around town and 15.5 towing 2500 kg. Would buy another in a heartbeat, in fact I'm working on SWMBO at the moment to take my limited so I can get the 2014 Overland diesel with the 8 speed box. Wish me luck! :D
 
#24 ·
Is the new Chrysler 300 available with the diesel engine in the US? If so, you can at least get some idea of the refinement and performance by taking a test drive of it.

It is the same VM Motori A630 engine that the GC gets, with the same 5 speed for now.
 
#25 ·
Is the new Chrysler 300 available with the diesel engine in the US? If so, you can at least get some idea of the refinement and performance by taking a test drive of it.

It is the same VM Motori A630 engine that the GC gets, with the same 5 speed for now.

:lol::lol: Heck no!! Currently there are no diesels in any Chrysler passenger cars in the US. Only the RAM pickups but I think that's the monster Cummins Diesel still. I am not keeping up with pickup truck too well.

I was at the LA Auto Show today and the product "experts" were totally non commital about the diesel WK2 being offered at all in the US. That was totally frustratting. Meanwhile Audi was happy to show off their Q5 TDI that's coming to the US with a 3.0L V6 diesel. Coincidence?? :rolleyes:
 
#26 ·
You have to look to sell them around 70k miles to another diesel enthusiast. Like every small diesel engine produced 2000 upwards. Maybe even sooner you will be bugged by the DPF Filter functions and their regenerations processes.

For short distance daily drivers the worstes choice you can get. (15miles)

Iam not a diesel owner or hater. Just reading my forum and all the guys experiences. Its not about the 3.0 engine. Its about the diesel reality of today.

No flames. Just to keep you posted.
 
#30 · (Edited)
I see your from europe and I have a question, not debating, but just a general question.

We currently own a VW 2.0 TDI and use it primarily as a daily driver, all city, probably only sees 15 miles/day weekdays roundtrip.

That being said, the DPF has only gone into the cleaning cycle maybe 3-4 times in the course of a year. The car only sees a longer highway run maybe once or twice a month at best.

Now, seeing that Europe is much more compact that the US, as are the cities, and city traffic is similar or worse (I have driven in Brussels, what a nightmare), one would think that cars in europe in general are subjected to shorter trips. However, I've seen VW diesels on uk ebay with 160k plus miles on them, so what is the basis for the sell at 70k statement?
 
#28 ·
Have done 4000 ks averaging 8.4 kpl and getting about 1140 klms out of each tank. Whats not to like about this car answer NOTHING, in six weeks heading off around OZ with a 2.5t van in tow looking forward to taking the Jeep on this journey. Love the power(lucky for cruise control) the smoothness and feel would not own anything else. For the people who put it down and say they would not own one "YOUR LOSS"!!!!!:D:thumbsup:
 
#29 ·
Just ticked over 20,000km on mine and I would buy one. I just wished there was a SRT8 model with the upspecced performance Diesel from the Mazza.
The CRD is the motor of choice in the WK2. It is as fast as a Hemi, better economy than the Pentastar and you can tune it if you wish.
It ticks all the boxes...
 
#31 ·
Either he do not know what he is talking about or other stories are fake. OK, I do not have WKII but WK with 3.0 CRD Merc engine and DPF with 100K on the clock (firs owner). Up to now no problems. I would also like to know what is the story behind DPF.
What is a problem with regeneration process. Some power is lost for short period of time and that it. On a highway you do not even feel it. So where is the problem????
 
#32 ·
Have had the Diesel Grand Cherokee for 15 months now 34,000 Klm's ... great car plenty of power ... two friends have now got the Jeep after going for a spin in mine .... still 4 to 6 months waiting after ordering one ... order one now June 2013 delivery ... let down by sub-standard service from Jeep Australia ... You people will be in for a pleasant surprise. Has just won SUV of the year here in Australia
 
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