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Re: Harmon Kardon Option Worth to $2000+

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On the HK you are going to get a mixed bag of results. The following thread gives you the pros and cons:

From the horses mouth on the Harman Kardon System

The HK system is based upon the one that goes into the European cars with FCA (Chrysler's) specifications that bring it down some notch's. Yes, it is not audiophile system. As I have always said, each person perceives sound differently from the next person. Some folks in their MB's or BMW's for example upgrade the speakers. There are speaker kits design for them. While others are known to rip it out and start fresh spending tens of thousands of dollars.

Is worth spend an additional $2k, that has to up to you. Test drive the system with an HK in it for at least 20 minutes. But, bring a selection of your favorite music on an SD card. This way you can hear the true potential for the system.

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Old 04-11-2015, 01:45 AM
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Re: Harmon Kardon Option Worth to $2000+

I have the premium system (HK). I removed the sub, installed a JL Stealth box, with a 500-watt Kenwood Class D Monoblock amp, and a Cache Audio bass restoration unit. It cost me about $1700.00 installed - and the system now sounds fantastic. I saved a ton by not having to do a complete 8K plus install, which is what I usually do. You can't tell that the system isn't a complete factory installed setup; it looks OEM.
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Harmon Kardon Option Worth to $2000+

I just ordered my replacement SRT and got the HK audio systemic it again if that tells you anything. I'm not a audiophile by any means, but occasionally when I'm alone in it I like to crank it up a bit. IMO Its a solid system and other than the poor XM radio quality I'm a happy guy. I mainly play music using the Bluetooth and iPhone. Sometimes I'll use the SD card. Both of which provide excellent sound. IMO.


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Re: Harmon Kardon Option Worth to $2000+

I listened to the stock system in a 2014 Overland and ordered the HK in my SRT since the dealer did not have a vehicle with the HK system in stock. It's worth the $2k and sounds great especially during long trips and when I spend afternoons cleaning her in the garage. I'm going to look into what JackJones did as well to enhance the bass though it may not be needed for my ears.
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Re: Harmon Kardon Option Worth to $2000+

Greetings,

The complaints that I most often get told about comes from the lack of a proper sub, the front door midrange and the rear door tweeter. As for the surround sound staging, the HK does a better job than the Alpine. As with the Alpine system, the time alignment between the speakers and the listener position is not allowed to be adjusted for the individual speaker locations.

As member JACKJONES's mods indicates that is all that is required for more pleasurable experience. Since I do not own an HK system, I am not sure if the sub is heard more in line with the front stage, whereas with the Alpine it gets lost in the Cargo area. Remember, most of us are used having the low bass in front of us with home audio 2 channel stereo system or Home Theater setup.

With the front door midrange directly near your shoulder and the rear tweeter just inches away from ear, this tends to overload the listeners and not able to distinguish any other stages properly. Believe it or not, the interior of JGC for a sound quality system is fine with only one (1) set of tweeters producing the high's. The overload of the midrange and upper frequencies is one of the reasons that the audiophile's do not like the HK system.

As I mention previously in few posts above, some of the European setup's up are similar here and those users eliminate and change speakers for better accuracy. To totally correct the HK system to your liking if you are not happy with it and maintain a surround sound system does require spending a lot of money depending on far you want to go. Then I recommend getting the Alpine and using the 2k towards the overall cost of the improvements.

Some of the other issues regarding the negative aspects does come from the surround sound:
  1. Those who never experience a surround sound setup in a vehicle before, there is a good chance that you will not be comfortable with it. Therefore, negative opinion.
  2. Those who compare their HT setup to the JGC HK setup, negative opinion. While others felt this works for them.

Bottom line, test drive it with and listen to it without the SirusXM and use a bluetooth or SD source.

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Re: Harmon Kardon Option Worth to $2000+

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Bottom line, test drive it with and listen to it without the SirusXM and use a bluetooth or SD source.
I think that is an important point you make and unfortunately one that I think many people don't do when test driving and comparing. They just compare with what is available at that moment which sadly is often XM and leave with an impression of there not being much difference from Alpine. If all someone is going to do is listen to xm and only xm don't waste your money on HK there is not much of an appreciable difference because xm is a rotten source. If you will be using any of the other formats HK sounds great and is worth the upgrade.
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Re: Harmon Kardon Option Worth to $2000+

Greetings,

When buying a vehicle, especially for me, I do not buy it for the sound system alone. I buy it for the merits it has offer for me. The sound I could always fix later and sometimes I get carried away.

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Re: Harmon Kardon Option Worth to $2000+

I had a 2012 Overland which came with the Alpine system. It was ok. My 2014 Summit came standard with the HK system and this plus the other great improvements they made on the 2014's were the reason I traded the 2012 in for the 2014. Big improvement in sound quality.
It would be very hard for me to go back to the Alpine system. But everyone's ears are different.
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I consider myself an Audiophile.
after listening to literally the best headphones on the market
B&W aka bowers and wilkins p7 over ear literally my ears cant adjust unless its crisp and completely clear at a super high volume level.

that could also mean im going deaf.

but i listened to this system in the 2015 all last week and im not a big fan.
not crisp enough for my taste.
best system i heard in the last few years was the 2012-2015
bmw 5 series upgraded one, not the 6k B&O one.
jeep one is not worth the 2k for me, but if you are an every day not high expectation type of person. it should work just fine.

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I have it and I think it worth every Pennie! If you can do it do it!!
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I consider myself an Audiophile.
after listening to literally the best headphones on the market
B&W aka bowers and wilkins p7 over ear literally my ears cant adjust unless its crisp and completely clear at a super high volume level.

that could also mean im going deaf.

but i listened to this system in the 2015 all last week and im not a big fan.
not crisp enough for my taste.
best system i heard in the last few years was the 2012-2015
bmw 5 series upgraded one, not the 6k B&O one.
jeep one is not worth the 2k for me, but if you are an every day not high expectation type of person. it should work just fine.

good luck

Greetings and welcome,

Harman just recently picked up the B&O auto division. Hopefully, sometime in the not to distant future maybe the Jeeps can be using these speakers powered by the Mark Levinson amps.

Like most car manufactures, I also doubt that Jeep will use the top of line B&O drivers. Raven is working on a speaker car line which would be a game changer when it comes out. Otherwise, if you can get the Sea Lotus car speaker line. that is awesome. I have not heard in a long time Rainbow ($$,$$$.$$), so I am not to sure how we they stand today. And of course, their is Focal's Utopia line.

Otherwise, as you said, but if you are an every day not high expectation type of person. it should work just fine." IMHO, the only thing I do not like is placement of the rear door tweeter and midrange drivers in the door.

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Re: Harmon Kardon Option Worth to $2000+

I went with the HK package, and honestly, I've gotten little use out of it. I'm a big SiriusXM guy, and for some reason, the SiriusXM sounded twice as good on my old '08 DD. (We've all read the threads on how bad the XM is on our cars with compression, etc).

Secondly, for the first time in any car that I've owned, I find myself turning off the radio quite often to just listen to the engine. Obviously, not getting the 2k out of my investment doing that.

Lastly, when I do use a SD card, Bluetooth or USB/Phone, the system sounds great. I'd probably still get it again, however I really "use" the real output of the HK system less than 50% of the time I'm driving.
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