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Old 06-30-2012, 09:40 PM
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Re: 2012 jEEP srt8 Flashed ECU WOW!!

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Old 06-30-2012, 09:52 PM
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Re: 2012 jEEP srt8 Flashed ECU WOW!!

wow^^^^^that has to be hard to stomach. Spread th word.....that will not happen here! Send B&G a message to get over here and discuss all the want!
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I'm still waiting to pull the trigger on the B&G. Looking for more feedback first. One of my concerns is that removing all the torque management may not be good for the tranny with it being so close to its max torque input, according to the SRT chat a while back. Looks like its working well from what KM as reported here and there.


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Re: 2012 jEEP srt8 Flashed ECU WOW!!

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I'm still waiting to pull the trigger on the B&G. Looking for more feedback first. One of my concerns is that removing all the torque management may not be good for the tranny with it being so close to its max torque input, according to the SRT chat a while back. Looks like its working well from what KM as reported here and there.


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That was gong to be my question too. Just because it seems to be working well in 1 weeks use is no reflection on what it's doing to the gearbox internals.
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Re: 2012 jEEP srt8 Flashed ECU WOW!!

what does any tuner, CMR etc etc do to a gearbox? I dont see this do anymore harm than my sct does to my jeep after 4 years.....
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:09 AM
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With the gearbox so close to its limits, WOT shifts at full torque my be detrimental to the life of the tranny. The TM is there for it's reasons. Granted I had no issues with my tuned WK1, but now this tranny is getting ~50 more torques to it. The tranny life in the WK1 took a quick decline once adding boost and 100-150 more hp and similar torque. I just don't think the tranny will hold very well with TM removed. I could be wrong, but we just gotta find out... Instead of lasting 100k miles it'll only last 50k miles. I'm just gonna keep researching across various 392 platforms before I purchase.


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Re: 2012 jEEP srt8 Flashed ECU WOW!!

heers a link to the tuner in question...B&G Performance

http://bgperformancepcm.com/
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http://www.allpar.com/mopar/transmis...AG1-WA580.html - cool site with some history on the trannys all the Jeep SRTs use.

I know this has been discussed many a times on both forums over the years but just to reiterate, the WK SRT and WK2 SRT share the same NAG1 thats been proven many times to handle almost up to 600hp/tq. Honestly, even with the torque management removed, I wouldn't have a worry in the world. Just my .02
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http://www.allpar.com/mopar/transmis...AG1-WA580.html - cool site with some history on the trannys all the Jeep SRTs use.

I know this has been discussed many a times on both forums over the years but just to reiterate, the WK SRT and WK2 SRT share the same NAG1 thats been proven many times to handle almost up to 600hp/tq. Honestly, even with the torque management removed, I wouldn't have a worry in the world. Just my .02
Yeah that's what I thought too but without torque management and it dropping from 4th to 2nd too many times on a road course. I replaced my trans with only headers and tune at 15k miles.
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Yeah that's what I thought too but without torque management and it dropping from 4th to 2nd too many times on a road course. I replaced my trans with only headers and tune at 15k miles.
Great point!

Also 580 N•m is ~428 ft/lb. Again, if you drive hard, which I do, no TM may be bad. Even though it'd be great fun I'd be saving for a built tranny. The NAG is strong, but it can only handle so much and it's close to its limits.


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