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Old 10-18-2016, 01:36 AM
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okie dokie, so as if Aug 20th was at DFWLX and, upon return, was finishing out the tune. TB started throwing ACC/FCW codes and we shut down tuning. Once we had the TB replaced and codes sorted we had the opportunity to field test a new 16 stage 2 valve body. After install, found out the TCM and PCM wouldn't play nice together, so spent a week troubleshooting programming. Once that was ironed out we got back to dynoing. Come to find with this new billet rig that our pressures were dropping on the drive side. Dropped the exhaust and found our original flex pipe was blown apart. Replaced flex piping. Pressure drop improved, but with 15lb springs in the WG, could only build 17lbs at intake at 100% duty cycle on Innovate BC. Placed pressure sensors at manifold, pre/post-turbo, pre/post-IC and intake. Interestingly enough, was losing pressure across the intercooler. Ran the serials and found out SHR installed a 800 crank hp 1300cfm IC and it was impeding flow. Researched ICs and bought a better racing IC rated at 1300+hp and 2200+cfm. First dyno run on 91 pump gas at WG pressure (15)
Generated 13lb at intake and produced 747rwhp and 770ft-lbs torque. In comparison, the previous IC at 13lbs made 660/650. Last IC ran 780/760 at 15.5lbs, but when we turned up the boost to 15lb, we spiked torque past 850 and the transmission started slipping and made the engine pull timing. Tried multiple cold runs and same thing. Somewhere between 800-850tq the trans says no thx even though I'm running SHR trans, ProTorq converter, stage 2 VB. This is where we are right now. Going to field test the VB at pump tune on WG pressure for now. Upcoming: very likely in the next 4-6 weeks will be trying a prototype transmission with billet internals, TC, VB and TCM access. If that works out, may have a platform to finish the race gas tune and shoot for that 1250 at the wheel plus ability to track it. Stay tuned 😀ImageUploadedByJeepGarage1476769004.365826.jpg


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Old 10-18-2016, 01:43 AM
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Old IC (ceramic coated black) and new IC
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Re: Another update

Went out on the road for road testing the rig on low boost pump gas and the SHR transmission is toast. Won't shift and is total loss. Odd, only dyno runs on this trans, ever. Not one burnout, 0-60 or 1/4 mile run. Anyhow, no field testing for now. Awaiting the full billet 8HP with clutch packs, improved solenoids, VB improvements, torque converter, and TCM program. I'm told may be around a month before receiving. Once I have that in, should be able to handle finishing the dyno tune on 105 and can start seeing what it can incrementally out down on the street.
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Damn man, so even with the upgrades to the trans it wouldn't hold 750+ ft-lbs... Have you found a way to do anything meaningful with the transmission tuning? Or have you just worked along the path of beefing up parts?

I can't imagine what the billet trans is going to cost you. Well, hopefully you are getting a deal being the prototype/guinea pig - maybe I should say what the billet trans would cost the rest of us. I think that may seal the deal on me ever adding more fuel and less pulley to mine.
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Damn man, so even with the upgrades to the trans it wouldn't hold 750+ ft-lbs... Have you found a way to do anything meaningful with the transmission tuning? Or have you just worked along the path of beefing up parts?

I can't imagine what the billet trans is going to cost you. Well, hopefully you are getting a deal being the prototype/guinea pig - maybe I should say what the billet trans would cost the rest of us. I think that may seal the deal on me ever adding more fuel and less pulley to mine.
Honestly, I've known for some time that the SHR transmission is worthless and actually worse than a stock transmission. Hence why only dyno runs burned it down. I can't disclose anything about the prototype transmission or where it's coming from because my rig is the best set up for max power pulls and will be testing it both dyno and strip. All I can say is that all internals are billet, clutch packs are enhanced, solenoids beefed up, valve body enhanced, ProTorq converter installed and access to TCM tuning. SHOULD be able to hold 1500+ hp, enough to handle the anticipated 1250rwhp this engine is expected to produce. Once it's assembled, tested, installed and dynoed, I'll be reporting back to the board on progress and, hopefully showing some live video during testing. I know the posts are sporadic and we all want answers. Trust me. My rig has been in the shop nonstop for 18 months without a single drive. I'm chomping at the proverbial bit too. Innovation takes a lot of time, money and patience. Believe me when I say over a quarter million invested so far and 18 straight months in the shop and I have the best and brightest in the field on the job. We are close to completely opening up the WK2 platform and I couldn't be happier for everyone in the community. Bear with us a little longer
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Re: Another update

Well, SHR came on the scene and talk went away pretty quick when a shop started having issues with their trans.

I really believe that access to tuning the 8-speed is what is key to getting longevity with significant increases in power levels. I have yet to see anyone else post anything positive on that front aside from your upcoming setup, so I'm all ears.

And, mine was down for almost 11 months when it threw a rod through the block; I understand the patience side. It's awesome that others may be able to benefit from your endeavor. Yours is going to be a beast and I wish you the best with it.
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Re: Another update

Small update time:
Transmission is almost complete. TCM is completely open now. Can set torque level at wherever you want, apparently and improve shift points at will. (Not being done though any existing programmer - HP/SCT/Diablo, etc; proprietary direct access tuning only) Shift pressure testing is where we are right now, trying to isolate the proper shift pressures at each of the 5 clutch packs. We have the first one down, which should be the hardest of the bunch, and should have proper pressure sequences determined for the rest soon. Once thats done will install and update again once we hit the dyno.

Happy Thanksgiving all. Be safe if you are travelling.

Edit: Also have a prototype 300M input shaft in the works for future use, if necessary. Prototype unit will come with stock input shaft because the wait on the 300M would be too long to bear. We will be testing my engine on the stock input shaft to determine if, and at what power level, it may fail. If it does, will know to replace it in future models beyond a certain power point with the other. Also, have reached out to a company who will be building a custom forged 9" Ford rear differential (IRS) and will be paired with a moly rear driveshaft and carbon fiber rear half shafts for the added power. Christmas should be good this year
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