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Wow, that really sucks Nathan. Will be interesting to hear what recommendations Ripp come back with. Hopefully it won't keep the beast off the road too long or empty the wallet too much.

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Re: Australian RIPP Install (RHD)

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Sounds crazy but Iíd have a serious look at a full built long block from the States. You can get a stroked 6.4L engine for under $10kplus shipping.
I would doubt the quality of this at that price , is that from ripp ?

you can get a stock replacement crate for $8k in the states so to be quoting $10k they must be budget internal.

Ive looked and found a few and its more like $32k for a mild one with 640hp and 720tq on pump gas as a daily driver. You could get some a bit cheaper , but you do get these to drive hard so you need it built hard.

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Re: Australian RIPP Install (RHD)

It is annoying that RIPP is banned from this site (so I've started posting on the Red site for this reason)....

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Thanks for all the advice, I'm going to take it step by step. I had a good long conversation with Ross at RIPP. At this stage I've just ordered the forged pistons (Modern Muscle) and will get the Head prepared and the rest of the vehicle checked (oil pump, bearings etc) for any metal bits. Ross is checking some options in general that may make sense while I have the engine out but I'll let him expand on that at some point.
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Re: Australian RIPP Install (RHD)

Yes cheap but bang for buck good value and less downtime than re-building. I think I could drop in a 10k motor plus miscellaneous 15K (inc SC) and have a decent setup. The pistons may be crap in our cars but the transmission are worse and canít handle the power.

Not sure what Iím going to do with my car just yet as I already have a built daily for track days and about to order the little pocket rocket Porsche Macan turbo.

So many engine options from the US itís hard to know where to start.

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I would doubt the quality of this at that price , is that from ripp ?

you can get a stock replacement crate for $8k in the states so to be quoting $10k they must be budget internal.

Ive looked and found a few and its more like $32k for a mild one with 640hp and 720tq on pump gas as a daily driver. You could get some a bit cheaper , but you do get these to drive hard so you need it built hard.

INDY MAX 4.500 BORE
CALLIES 4340 FORGED 4.5 STROKE CRANK
4340 FORGED CALLIES H-BEAM
JE FORGED 10.5 TO 1 COMPRESSION
PLASMA MOLY SPEED PRO
CLEVITE H SERIES
CUSTOM HYDRAULIC ROLLER CAM, LIFTERS SHAFT ROCKERS, .080
WALL PUSHRODS
INDY FULLY CNC PORTED
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FELPRO
ARP
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Re: Australian RIPP Install (RHD)

yeah it looks ok , but i dont think it would go as hard or last as long as the NRE one . it is a dropin as well .

bang yes more bucks for sure
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Re: Australian RIPP Install (RHD)

Have not updated this thread for a bit so here is where I am at. We ended up pulling the engine out and:
- Head off and checked. Decided to replace one valve (Cyl 1)
- Adding Forged Piston Heads
- Lapping the bores for new Piston Heads
- Adding extractors/headers RHD Kooks + Green Cats (stock exhaust)
- Ripp Stage 2 Kit (Larger FMIC, Pipes, Larger pulley, Belt, Tune)

Attached is the Pic of the broken Cyl 1 Head

The aim is to prevent a repeat issue while keeping the performance.

All the bits are there with the excpetion of the Valve (the wrong one was sent from MOPAR, so a new one has to come in from the USA).
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Re: Australian RIPP Install (RHD)

Thanks for the update Jmone.
Fingers crossed that everything arrives ok and you are back behind the wheel soon..

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Re: Australian RIPP Install (RHD)

inally got my Truck back but all I had time to do was drive it from the Dealer back to my place (and in the Rain). I've now had installed:
- Headers (Kooks + Green Cats)
- Forged Pistons
- Larger Pulley on the SC
- New Canned Tune from RIPP

What did NOT go on was the larger IC as they could not work out how it went I've now got updated instructions from RIPP so it looks like it will need go back at some time. This is all a PITA.

I have no real impressions yet on the short drive except to say it sounds completely different with the Headers.
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Re: Australian RIPP Install (RHD)

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I've broken ring lands on Piston 1. Looks like time for some Forged Pistons. Any recommendations for a drop in set? So far I've found:
https://www.modernmuscleperformance....-Forged-Piston
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Also they asked if I should upgrade by Bottom End Bearings?

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What kind of boost and timing were you running? What were your AFR's looking like?

Was there any tuning you did on site, or was it a canned tune and remote?
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Re: Australian RIPP Install (RHD)

Good evening, I'm from Brazil. Forgive the typos, you're using google translator.
In March 2015 I bought a GC limited diesel and am so far satisfied.
I'm thinking of installing a power chip or chip peformance or tunnig (I do not know how you call it)
In Brazil the jeep cars are not very popular so do not have many people to exchange information.
I wonder if putting chip and removing it when you take the revisions Dealers (durantre guarantee) they must detect that my jeep had installed chip
thank you for help.
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What kind of boost and timing were you running? What were your AFR's looking like?

Was there any tuning you did on site, or was it a canned tune and remote?
All the canned tune and setup from RIPP (have not adjusted anyting). The attached is the data I can get from the OBDII port using Torque. I don't think I get any AFR(M) from the OBDII as we either don't have a Wideband sensor as stock or I don't know the PID.
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Re: Australian RIPP Install (RHD)

Another Quick Update (cross post with the red site). I've now got it all installed and running.

So put it on a AWD Dyno (Mainline AWD1200) and got the attached graphs (we did a few runs with the "best" being in 5th Gear). He also played with some of the settings in the Dyno and we just had the SRT in Track Mode running AWD:
- 315KW/422hp
- 775NM / 571 ft lb
- 5.4 psig of boost
- AFR is around 10 to 11:1

I'm not really sure if this is how it all should be so any advice from RIPP & Others would be good, but:
- Isn't RIPP Stage 2 stuff meant to be around 600hp at the wheels? (I seem to be missing 180 horses!)
- Seems I have heaps of torque (but he said this was a "derived" field and I got the impression it may not be accurate)
- Wasn't Boost upped with the Stage 2 kits from 5psi
- What should the AFR be? It seems rich and would explain why my fuel economy has been poor lately (or my right foot) but I've read some saying that aftermarket blowers run around this. At least it is not lean! Edit - from the Vortech web site:

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Can I operate a Vortech supercharger system without a fuel management system?

Even with a perfectly calibrated mass air flow system, you still need a fuel management unit for enrichment under boost. The air/fuel ratio must change from 14.7:1 (stoichiometric) naturally aspirated, to about 11.5:1-12.0:1 (rich) under full boost.
The guy running the Dyno said he can dial in various settings on the Dyno if there is a "Std" used by RIPP to get a comparision.

Knowing I'm not running lean, I just took it out for a couple of 0-100km/k runs (just using LC).
- Back to back 3.8sec
- AIT seem to stay around 25degrees (cent)

Some seat of pants feedback, it now RIPPs out of the hole with much more urgency than my 1st gen setup! ...and I thought it would easily beat my previous best of 3.6sec but the acceleration in the 70-100kmh range seemed to fall away and be much less urgent.

Logs and the Q's above have been seen to RIPP by email.

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