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Re: Alignment after RM mid drop

Thanks for the info. I'm looking at these for my Altitude. Already picked up a set of Bilstein 4600s. Just trying to get as many real-world reviews as I can.

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Re: Alignment after RM mid drop

Yea the difference is easy to see now. Thanks. Really love the color of that jeep.
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Re: Alignment after RM mid drop

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2 finger gap in the front, 3 finger gap in the rear when running the mids.

This is a pic of the aggressive... Slammed
This is a pretty accurate statement altho the mids are a 2-3 finger in the Rear on some depending on age of the truck from what I've seen.
The extremes are about 0 fingers you have to reach under to get a finger on top of a 22" wheel and 305/35/22


As far as alignment goes from what I've seen the OEM is as follows:

-1.8 to -0.9 and mids come back to -1.8 to -2.4 in almost all cases.

A bad alignment when I tell someone to find a new shop is greater than -2.4. Their is no way with almost 800 sets of mids sold and almost all by me and serviced my be anyone should be more than -2.4 on a Mid level.

Now lets look at -2.4 out of spec (Worse case on a Mid Level)

-2.4 is -0.6 out of spec. not much at all to be honest and this is worse case remember -1.8 to 2.2 is the most common I would say by 98% of people on a mid.

A Jeep before an alignment can be -1.7 to -1.9 I've even seen sheets -2.0 before a install of a spring.

With this ^ said their are quite a few OEM jeeps no drop springs that start with the 2.0 out measurement and if someone checks their alignment before a drop they will see this too. (I've been collecting this Data)

So if a truck before alignment is say 2.0 again Very common and you do a mid you get back to a -2.1 you are -0.1 out so yes your out but not far and certainly not a number to get stuck on or worry about.

People now get their sheet and see -2.1 out of Spec in RED!!!

Well they call me freaking out saying "I gotta fix this asap" I explain to them what I'm explaining to you all here above.

Adjustable arms to fix -0.1 is costly and not needed unless you want to create an overall great handling performing truck I would pass on Arms you don't really need them.

As mentioned on my Endlink post I rather undersell someone VS oversell them. I explain what is is their buying into rather than just take their money and let them find out later that they bought into something to fix -0.01 for 600+$.
Yes big coin for a minor adjustment that just wasn't needed IMO..

Hope all my numbers are correct above haa it's early and if someone finds a mistake point it out as I'm trying to Squeeze a long post in before I start my day LOL and if anyone ha any Questions Please feel free to call me I will be more than happy to explain all this over the phone for ya 239.691.7515

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Always appreciate your insight, Chad. Thanks
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Re: Alignment after RM mid drop

Thanks for that info Chad. I think as soon as I get back to the States in the new year I'll be giving you a call to get a few things ordered. Looking at the RM Mid Drop and Factory Rep 22's. Also talked to you briefly on Instagram about a possible lower spoiler being released at the beginning of 2016. I think I will get an alignment done before I install any springs so that I can compare the before / after and see whether control arms are something worth investing in.

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Re: Alignment after RM mid drop

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This is a pretty accurate statement altho the mids are a 2-3 finger in the Rear on some depending on age of the truck from what I've seen.
The extremes are about 0 fingers you have to reach under to get a finger on top of a 22" wheel and 305/35/22


As far as alignment goes from what I've seen the OEM is as follows:

-1.8 to -0.9 and mids come back to -1.8 to -2.4 in almost all cases.

A bad alignment when I tell someone to find a new shop is greater than -2.4. Their is no way with almost 800 sets of mids sold and almost all by me and serviced my be anyone should be more than -2.4 on a Mid level.

Now lets look at -2.4 out of spec (Worse case on a Mid Level)

-2.4 is -0.6 out of spec. not much at all to be honest and this is worse case remember -1.8 to 2.2 is the most common I would say by 98% of people on a mid.

A Jeep before an alignment can be -1.7 to -1.9 I've even seen sheets -2.0 before a install of a spring.

With this ^ said their are quite a few OEM jeeps no drop springs that start with the 2.0 out measurement and if someone checks their alignment before a drop they will see this too. (I've been collecting this Data)

So if a truck before alignment is say 2.0 again Very common and you do a mid you get back to a -2.1 you are -0.1 out so yes your out but not far and certainly not a number to get stuck on or worry about.

People now get their sheet and see -2.1 out of Spec in RED!!!

Well they call me freaking out saying "I gotta fix this asap" I explain to them what I'm explaining to you all here above.

Adjustable arms to fix -0.1 is costly and not needed unless you want to create an overall great handling performing truck I would pass on Arms you don't really need them.

As mentioned on my Endlink post I rather undersell someone VS oversell them. I explain what is is their buying into rather than just take their money and let them find out later that they bought into something to fix -0.01 for 600+$.
Yes big coin for a minor adjustment that just wasn't needed IMO..

Hope all my numbers are correct above haa it's early and if someone finds a mistake point it out as I'm trying to Squeeze a long post in before I start my day LOL and if anyone ha any Questions Please feel free to call me I will be more than happy to explain all this over the phone for ya 239.691.7515

Thanks
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I just talked to you on the phone about this as I'm getting my truck aligned now after installation of Mid's. The guys don't believe the stock measurements but are good with what I told them. I'll post final results. Thanks Chad! You're the best!
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Alignment after RM mid drop

I finished with the below results. I'm okay with these figures.
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I finished with the below results. I'm okay with these figures.
Your gonna eat up the inside of your tires. They are close to spec but even in spec is to much at that end of the spectrum. That's where I was at and still am in the front. Haven't fixed the front yet but did the rear
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Mine is similar and my tires are fine after about 10k miles on my pirellis.
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Mine is similar and my tires are fine after about 10k miles on my pirellis.


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Usually takes me about 10-12k for them to start. Once they start they are hard to stop
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