Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee SRT - WK2 > WK2 SRT Performance Discussion > Suspension/Driveline/Brakes

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #1  
Old 01-31-2014, 12:26 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 482
Thanks: 0
Thanked 24 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 1631
mlarco52 has a reputation beyond reputemlarco52 has a reputation beyond repute
Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

Just wondering I plan on getting the road magnet moderate 1/1.8 drop this coming spring/summer and wondering if anything else is needed such as the replacement control arms to correct any camber issues. I have a 2012 srt8.

Are the control arms only needed for the aggressive drop? If so that is great and saves me alot of money.

Thanks
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-31-2014, 01:53 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 318
Thanks: 1
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 59052
A.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

I have the 1.8" in the back and the rear is maxed out at -1.8 camber. Im gonna end up with some sort of solution to bring the camber down just have not decided what yet. Front is good, rear may still get some inner tire wear being that negative
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-31-2014, 03:52 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 482
Thanks: 0
Thanked 24 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 1631
mlarco52 has a reputation beyond reputemlarco52 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

Thank you for the info, I'm debating if I will or won't do the drop, only time will tell. Appreciate it!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-02-2014, 02:40 PM
Black Ops Auto Works's Avatar
Premium Vendor
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mass.
Posts: 1,227
Thanks: 27
Thanked 45 Times in 36 Posts
Rep Power: 291988
Black Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

The rear will max out no matter what drop we do unfortunatly these trucks are not really designed to go low.


Road Magnet Review

Post#6 is the alignment sheet from the Extremes and an explanation of the use of Camber in a performance application.

it's not all bad if we are modifying or vehicles to perform better. The trade offs when modifying for performance are not replaceable buy some magic solutions unfortunately some things we just have to accept to make our vehicles perform. Even with the Arms some camber should remain to track better and I don't meant Race Track with that term I mean just performance and turning capabilities.

The Arms are not just for Camber they stiffen up the rear because of the harder bushings and stiffer material this gives less flex throughout the entire rear. These where FEA tested not just welded or cut by some CNC shop they work and will not fail because they where tested.

We are also doing the end links because I have gotten some pictures of the ones that are out majorly failed because they where designed wrong entirely.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-03-2014, 03:51 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 318
Thanks: 1
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 59052
A.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

Chad you talking about the sway bar links? My biggest thing about the camber is I don't stick well off the line with so much negative camber in the rear, the tires already don't stick well and now they spin worse lol
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-03-2014, 04:34 PM
Black Ops Auto Works's Avatar
Premium Vendor
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mass.
Posts: 1,227
Thanks: 27
Thanked 45 Times in 36 Posts
Rep Power: 291988
Black Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

Quote:
Originally Posted by A.V.GCSRT8 View Post
Chad you talking about the sway bar links? My biggest thing about the camber is I don't stick well off the line with so much negative camber in the rear, the tires already don't stick well and now they spin worse lol
Last two paragraphs yes my Arms will correct these issues with Camber and Toe.

The last paragraph has to do with the links. The 2012 End links do not work as designed as you can see they need to swivel as I've posted someplace else here on the forums what they should look like.

Stiffening the rear is one thing but no matter how hard the bushing are or how thick the links are they will pop out if designed wrong. As you can see here a customer has sent me some pics of his and the issues his had.






Good side you can see the bolt is off center and stressed of the end.
No Bueno'



My goal in the rear is to reduce deflection which helps decrease wheel hop and increase traction. I have one of the best designers in the industry running FEA tests on everything I am doing. These suspension options may not be cheap but I'm committed to making the highest quality working parts available these trucks deserve high quality parts.

We should be able to have the entire rear done before summer.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-03-2014, 06:57 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 318
Thanks: 1
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 59052
A.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

That doesn't look good. Is it possible the installer didn't line up the bolts evenly? Hope mine don't do that...
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-03-2014, 09:29 PM
Scottina06's Avatar
JeepGarage Founder
My Jeep: 2014 6.4L SRT8 WK2
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Berea, Kentucky
Posts: 48,851
Thanks: 834
Thanked 824 Times in 635 Posts
Rep Power: 7717435
Scottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond reputeScottina06 has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

Most of the endlinks Ive seen were like that. Took me 2-3 times to get mine that good on my 13'. I didn't even bother adding them on my 14'
__________________
SCOTT
The HARDER you work...the LUCKIER you are!
2014 REDLINE red Jeep SRT "BLOODIED Edition" 1 of 1
Previous JEEP rides-
2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-deep cherry
2013 JKU 10th anniversary-white
2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo-inferno red



Twitter-The_Jeep_Guy
Instagram-thejeep_guy

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-04-2014, 02:00 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 318
Thanks: 1
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 59052
A.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

Glad I have something to look forward to
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-04-2014, 10:55 AM
Member
My Jeep: 2013 6.4L WK2
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 174
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 430
JeffL is on a distinguished road
Re: Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

so are the adjustable control arms necessary with the mid-level lowering springs? I'd rather get the lip but if they are required I'll go that route lowering is required. Or can you align close enough without them?
__________________
2013 Jeep SRT8
Alpine Edition
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-04-2014, 08:43 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 318
Thanks: 1
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 59052
A.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond reputeA.V.GCSRT8 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

so scott on your '13 did were you able to keep your link bushings from doing this? my driver side front is starting...
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-05-2014, 07:17 AM
Black Ops Auto Works's Avatar
Premium Vendor
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mass.
Posts: 1,227
Thanks: 27
Thanked 45 Times in 36 Posts
Rep Power: 291988
Black Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond reputeBlack Ops Auto Works has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Calling all with Road Magnet moderate do I need anything else?

The arms should be done with any drop will just make it a solid set up.

The install unfortunately has nothing to do with the link failure I think Toms are doing this too the bushing is forced out because that is the softest part so over time they pop they are built wrong.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Road Magnet Review 14StormTrooper Grand Cherokee SRT - WK2 26 07-10-2014 01:46 PM
Road Magnet Aggressive Drop Quesiton barish93 Suspension/Driveline/Brakes 39 02-16-2014 01:47 PM
Road magnet springs CPT2010 Visual Modifications 23 09-25-2010 06:20 AM
Who's running BWoody / Road Magnet Springs? amw5 Grand Cherokee - WK 1 08-07-2010 10:20 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community