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Old 09-11-2013, 09:12 AM
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Re: 2011-2013 Foglight upgrade Option

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Re: 2011-2013 Foglight upgrade Option

Please let us know if you end up adjusting the aim on them or just leave them as is. Seems like it would be impossible to adjust the light without removing them again to mess with the adjustment screw (I'm assuming it has one?).

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What?
Why remove the front bumper?
Twist a couple fasteners underneath and one bolt (13mm I think), and you can reach up from below. 8mm (if I remember correctly) to take the old lights out and re-use the OEM screws to fasten the new ones in.

I want to wait until Friday so I can take my time and get good night time comparison pics.
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:02 AM
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Re: 2011-2013 Foglight upgrade Option

Bummer it seems that JW Speaker must have sent out the black ones to most resellers first because most of the places I have checked don't seem to have the chrome ones in stock.

I guess I will have an indefinite wait to get the chrome ones
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Old 09-12-2013, 01:19 PM
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Re: 2011-2013 Foglight upgrade Option

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Please let us know if you end up adjusting the aim on them or just leave them as is. Seems like it would be impossible to adjust the light without removing them again to mess with the adjustment screw (I'm assuming it has one?).
I install/adjust laying on my back and sliding under the front bumper, but then again I have a nice concrete driveway. I have to turn my head to the side to fit under the 'spoiler' on each end of the bumper, but then I reach up and adjust with a phillips screwdriver.

I plan to try to get some good pics showing each step/piece of the install, probably be a combo of pics from an old Kodak digital camera and the camera on my Galaxy S4.

I'm thinking I'll write up a doc and convert to PDF to upload (so that different versions of MS Word don't butcher the formatting).
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Bummer it seems that JW Speaker must have sent out the black ones to most resellers first because most of the places I have checked don't seem to have the chrome ones in stock.

I guess I will have an indefinite wait to get the chrome ones
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I got black ones from Rebel Offroad (I didn't see a choice when ordering), but I'm fine with that as I have grey paint and the original black fog light surrounds.
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Re: 2011-2013 Foglight upgrade Option

Are there specifics on how high off the ground and at what distance the beam is suppose to hit?

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I install/adjust laying on my back and sliding under the front bumper, but then again I have a nice concrete driveway. I have to turn my head to the side to fit under the 'spoiler' on each end of the bumper, but then I reach up and adjust with a phillips screwdriver.

I plan to try to get some good pics showing each step/piece of the install, probably be a combo of pics from an old Kodak digital camera and the camera on my Galaxy S4.

I'm thinking I'll write up a doc and convert to PDF to upload (so that different versions of MS Word don't butcher the formatting).
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Are there specifics on how high off the ground and at what distance the beam is suppose to hit?
According to the PIAA web site (from installing the 530 LED fog lights), the top of the beam pattern should be 4 inches below the center line of the fog lights from 25 feet away.

PIAA | Lamp Aiming Guide

That is what I used to aim both the OEM and the PIAA 530LED fog lights in my GC (and obviously will use it to aim the JW Speaker lights).
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:23 PM
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Re: 2011-2013 Foglight upgrade Option

OK, install completed.
If you don't want to remove the entire bumper cover, you don't have to. You can pull aside the lower fender liner by removing a 10mm screw and a turn button (turn 90 degrees and pull out). I used a bungee cord wrapped around the sway bar to hold the liner back out of my way.

Three screws hold the light onto the rear of the bumper cover, you need a 7mm socket for them. Only use a 1/4 inch drive, anything larger you will probably over torque them.

Leave the fender liner held out of the way until you finish aiming the light.

How do they look?
HOLY CRAP!
The PIAA LED lights were better/brighter than the OEM fogs, but...
I installed the driver's side and then turned on the fogs to aim that one...
I could not even tell that the PIAA light on the passenger side was still on, had to double check to be sure.

Well worth the $300 in my opinion.
The first pic is the lights aimed against my garage door (the tape are marks to align them). The second pic is looking at the front of the Jeep with only the fogs and marker lights on. (You can still see the blanket I was laying on and my work light by the passenger side.)

I might have them a little too high... We'll see if I get high beams flashed at me. They are still below the centerline of the light, so I should be OK.
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Additional note:
The centerline of the fogs is 24 inches high, but my driveway slopes down, so the marks on my garage door are obviously higher than 24 inches. I used a level with an adjustable bubble level to set the level of the slope and then mounted the level on a camera tripod sitting right in front of the bumper and set to the same slope as the driveway. Then turned on the laser crosshair to project onto the garage door and then taped the centerline (solid tape) and 4 inches below centerline (dashed tape).
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amazing...just like the headlights in my wifes jku
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Re: 2011-2013 Foglight upgrade Option

Just like the headlight revolution guy said in the youtube video.

One spreads from edge to edge of the road.

You have one continuous blanket of light against the door.


OEMs would have given two hot spot with some trapezoidal holograms from the light bezel ( well if you had chrome bezels)


Todd lets see some daytime pics of those blacked out housings and bezels
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Re: 2011-2013 Foglight upgrade Option

Hmm, I don't have a garage door or drive way to aim them comfortably. =/ How was the aim out of the box? To high or to low?
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