Originally Posted by Todd3.6
Aww, the heck with the doc.
Here's some more pics (they were larger, the upload shrunk them...)
The first pic is looking up under the front of the jeep with my head right in front-of/next-to the tire (driver's side). You can see the 'chin spoiler' to the left of the pic.
There is one 90degree twist fastener ('above' the bolt in the picture) and one 10mm bolt that attach the lower lip of the fender liner. That's all I took out and then pulled the lower fender liner back towards the sway bar (and held it back with a bungee cord, but string/twine would work too).
The second pic is looking up into the gap towards the fog light (on the driver's side). That's my 'old' PIAA fog light you see in the second pic, not an OEM fog light.
Hope these help!
I worked laying on my back on the cement (no ramps or jacks) and then reached up into the gap created by pulling back the lower section of the fender liner. Hit my head on the tire a couple times. Including setting up the laser level and tape lines on the garage door and then cleanup, I spend about 90 minutes.
Excellent write up Todd3.6!
And thanks Jeep-addicted for your input as well!
I just did this install laying on my back on a concrete driveway and have a few observations;
First if you have Quadra Lift, lift your jeep up to Off Road 2 for maximum height and lock it in position. Remove the fronts wheels for clearance to work.
You don't need to completely remove the fender liners just remove the lower 10mm bolt and the lower one half turn plastic retainer on each side. These can be found just to the rear of the OEM fogs and are the lowest attachment points for the front fender liner.
Hook and pull the lower front part of the fender liners back & out of the way as suggested by Todd3.6 w/a bungee cord. Now looking up to where the fogs mount, remove the three 7mm OEM hex screws and unclip the OEM electrical connector and pull the OEM fog lights out. On the passenger side if you have quadra lift the OEM compressor is somewhat in the way so you can't actually see the inboard hex screw and will have to remove it by feel. I used a 1/4" flex head rachet w/a 7mm deep socket to remove the OEM hex screws. Mounting the JW speaker fogs is pretty simple, they fall into place just like the OEM fogs with the same mounting lug alignment and screw holes.
I made my own plug and play harness adaptors just like Todd3.6 did in post #56 of this thread. I ordered what I needed from Headlights & Fog Lights
as suggested in this thread.
These guys will sell you the exact adaptor harness you need if you don't/can't solder yourself;
Get the harness for the 2504 OEM bulb.
After they were in I had to adjust both JW Speaker fogs upward as they were aimed to low out of the box. After remounting my front tires, & lowering to normal ride height, I left the lower front fender liner 10mm bolts and plastic retainers off so I could reached up behind the liners, in front of the tires, to adjust the fogs w/ a phillips screwdriver. A couple of turns clockwise brought them up to the specs Todd3.6 referenced in post #67 of this thread!
I purchased my JW Speaker 6145 fogs from RebelOffroad.com. Best price I could find. They had the black ones in stock and shipped them cross country in 2 days. I paid $295.00 w/shipping and tax included!
For those that might think about purchasing the JW Speaker 6145 fogs from Headlight Revolution....... DON'T!! The ones they sell are exactly what RebelOffroad, Quadratec, and others sell, they just include a premade adaptor harness for an extra $98.00
. They do not come w/the correct 5202 wire plugs (that plug into the OEM 2504 bulbs) already installed on the factory JW Speaker fog leads.
These lights are awesome! Well worth the upgrade.
Thanks again to Todd3.6 & Jeep-addicted for their informative posts!!