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Old 07-24-2014, 07:04 PM
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Re: 2012 SRT Bixenon on a 2012 Altitude

Sounds like a Pain but maybe you could have a professional toss them in the oven for a bit and swap the clear lenses from your stock lamps? Unless you wanna tackle that for yourself. That really sucks.. Your probably right that the original place roughed them up before painting


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Old 07-24-2014, 07:22 PM
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Sounds like a Pain but maybe you could have a professional toss them in the oven for a bit and swap the clear lenses from your stock lamps?
Right, that was my absolute last resort only because the diy hid upgrades I have seen for wk2s seem to have not simply tossed in the oven but had to dremel tabs to split the two pieces
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2012 SRT Bixenon on a 2012 Altitude

Yea you would have to take off the ballast and everything.. I suppose it's a lot less to worry about with the halogen ones. No luck on the rubbing compound?


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Ouch. ...yeah what a mess.
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:23 AM
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Re: 2012 SRT Bixenon on a 2012 Altitude

Ben :


Those lenses can be salvaged

I also restore headlight lenses.

The only problem is knowing how deep the scratches are.

The 3M professional headlight restoration kit would require you start out 500 grit dry pads for a DA sander.

If the 500 grit got out the gouges then you could go up to 800, 1000 3000 then 5000 then complete that with some ultra fine polish.

If the 500 grit didn't get out all the gouges then you would try some 400 or some 320. Then you would have to start out with the progressive polishing all over again.

You should so if you can find someone that actually polishes the plastic.


I wouldn't mine doing them for you but just shipping them to me would be $85 dollars each way.
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Re: 2012 SRT Bixenon on a 2012 Altitude

You are the man!

I wish you were local I would have you do them, I still might to be honest


You have at the very least given me hope on this. I have been getting shot down by body shops - I have to find someone that utilizes this process locally
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Re: 2012 SRT Bixenon on a 2012 Altitude

I try not to put abrasive on headlight lenses so if I want to remove oxidation from a new headlight I would use a clay bar on it first then it that didn't work I would move onto a mild abrasive polish.

I did a VW cabrio and the headlights on that car were toast but there was enough material that I could sand away the pitting and delamination and find some virgin lense to polish out.


I don't use air tools I have a 3'" griots garage DA that I use the pads on. I had assembled my own kit for about $250.

I don't actively solicit jobs anymore but I have a buddy that repairs German imports and he usually will throw me a bone every now and again.

Machines are not necessary all the time but they speed up the process I have polished headlights by hand before.

This method restores optical clarity to the lenses versus a body shop sanding the surface and spraying on clear coat. Putting clear on the lenses only improves the appearance it does not restore full optical clarity like polishing does.



They now have a 5000 grit disc that takes the polishing past the already near perfect effect of the 3000 grit in the video.

The 5000 grit eliminates the need for the rubbing compound. so that after the 5000 you go straight to polish
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Re: 2012 SRT Bixenon on a 2012 Altitude

You are a great wealth of knowledge and I appreciate it.

Let me ask you a question

If I were to simply wet sand from say.... 400 (+/- 100 grit) all the way up to 2500 grit. If I cannot find 3000 grit locally then go to a rubbing compound? Then a polish... would that be ok? You originally stated start out with a DA dry ~500 grit...

wet vs dry ... thinking in general wet would be much better for the entire process, no?

My friend and I are going to tackle this on Sunday. He does own a porter cable that accepts I believe 3.5" pads.
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Re: 2012 SRT Bixenon on a 2012 Altitude

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You are a great wealth of knowledge and I appreciate it.

Let me ask you a question

If I were to simply wet sand from say.... 400 (+/- 100 grit) all the way up to 2500 grit. If I cannot find 3000 grit locally then go to a rubbing compound? Then a polish... would that be ok? You originally stated start out with a DA dry ~500 grit...

wet vs dry ... thinking in general wet would be much better for the entire process, no?

My friend and I are going to tackle this on Sunday. He does own a porter cable that accepts I believe 3.5" pads.

you can find 3000 grit sand paper HERE Auto Detailing Supplies, Chemicals, Equipment, Accessories and more. they ship fast and accept paypal.


You need 3000 at a minimum. I have never acheived real clarity until I started to use 3000 grit paper.


When I said 500 dry I was reffering specifically to the process showing the video with the products.

if you are going to attempt to do to this by hand then yes you want to wet sand.

Only sand in straight lines.

Horizontally acrross the lense is fine

Then switch to 45 degress horozontal for the next pass.

and progressiively go up.


PLEASE NOTE: Always try to use the finest grit possible to remove the current scratches.
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Thanks again buddy. Sunday is d day. At autozone picking up an arsenal of sandpaper.

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Re: 2012 SRT Bixenon on a 2012 Altitude

Plast x is pretty good.
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Re: 2012 SRT Bixenon on a 2012 Altitude

I would also recommend that once you get the finish just right to use some sort of sealant or clear coat to protect the lenses from yellowing. On one of my previous cars, I went through the sanding process to restore the lenses, and I never did that final step and they went back to the yellow haze in under a year. Good luck and keep us updated!
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