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2014 GC Fog Light Question

New to the garage, have an issue that's driving me nuts.

In every vehicle I've owned (always Mopar... Just had a 2010 Dodge Ram), I've always upgraded my lighting to LED and HID.

Upon buying the appropriate bulbs for the fog lights, the light output is AWFUL and practically non-existent. The bulb itself is very bright SMD LED, but the way it sits in the housing, I assume considering it's a projector housing, the light bounces so much it doesn't shine out at all.

I've tried multiple bulbs. Same thing. I've seen other GC's on this site with LED upgrades and theirs look great. What's the deal?

Any help would be amazing!

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Old 09-08-2015, 05:43 PM
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Re: 2014 GC Fog Light Question

Humm, not sure what to tell you except you need to try one of the newer style LED bulbs that looks more like an HID capsule. They have two LED chips inside a glass tube. If you are using LED towers those are junk. I have LED fogs in my Summit and the output is identical to the original bulb that retains the perfect cutoff line.
Search my username for a thread with pics.
In the mean time here is a sample of the output from my LED fogs.

Stock bulb left side of picture, LED on right:


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Here is what the LED bulb looks like:
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:42 PM
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Re: 2014 GC Fog Light Question

I have also had issues with ebay LEDs claiming to be super bright. They are junk. You need to source out genuine bright LEDs.

It is very important to find one that has the same light source location as the original bulb. This will maintain the correct focal point to work with your reflector.
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Re: 2014 GC Fog Light Question

Yes I'm familiar with the HID LED bulbs I actually used those as my low beams in my ram they were amazing. Which I wasn't sure it would have been enough for actual headlights but they were perfect.

The light tower bulbs are junk that is for sure. I've used about any kind you can think of I just never used any in projectors. But the focal point thing makes perfect sense
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Old 09-08-2015, 09:19 PM
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Re: 2014 GC Fog Light Question

I just put some LED fogs in my 2015 today. Look for a thread "Overland fog light replacement, pic heavy" (something like that). I installed the same LED fogs that he used.

I just took the truck for a quick drive and I likey. The bulbs are Phillips Xtreme Ultinon LED H11's. They only use 9.3watts compared to stock 55watts and they put out 2400 lumens with crisp cutoff compared to stock 1350 lumens. The color is a little on the blue scale for me at 6000K but looks really good with DRLs. These bulbs are not cheap BUT....sometimes you get what you pay for (you knew that was coming). They are direct plug and play. They consume less power and burn much cooler than the stock halogen bulb so no worries with melting the housing. Phillips says that expected lifespan is 12 years with 3 year warranty. I bought mine from XenonDepot but do a search and find best pricing.

I should say that I do not have any interest in Phillips or XenonDepot and I have not been solicited to use or promote their products. I did the upgrade and am pleased for now, we will see how it holds up.
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Re: 2014 GC Fog Light Question

Thanks for all the advice I will look into it for sure!

I also have ran to the following issue as of last night;

I installed some 35watt HIDs (AC). While the vehicle is off and in ACC mode, they work. However, when the vehicle is actually on and running they do not. They flash a couple of times and even make one of my factory LED lights blink (as if it's messing with power in an awful way). Just makes no sense I've never once ran in to this with any vehicle. It's almost like it will not work with anything but regular ugly halogen bulbs ONLY. If it can't handle 35watt HIDs, it can't handle anything. I always used 55watt on all of my applications if using HIDs instead of LEDs.

I'm very frustrated and disappointed. My signature is always lighting in my vehicles and it's looking like I'll never be able to change anything. I can only imagine the pain in the ass the headlights will be. I like crisp bright white lights. Not this factory bull
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Re: 2014 GC Fog Light Question

I've been having this same problem. I tried two different types/brands of leds and they both blink and turn off. I tried a canbus adapter that's supposed to fix this and they stay on longer but still turn off randomly after being on for 20 minutes+. The jeep doesn't tell us when a fog light bulb has burnt out like it does the headlights and brakes, but, I think it still looks at the amp draw. In my experience with my other car, when the car senses the wrong amp draw on a circuit it ends up turning the power off to that circuit. I think that's what's happening with the jeep. When it's on ACC voltage is lower which means amps are higher and it must be within spec. With the engine running volts are higher and amps drop which must drop below spec, so the car turns the light off. Too smart for it's own good. Did you ever get it working?
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Re: 2014 GC Fog Light Question

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The bulbs are Phillips Xtreme Ultinon LED H11's. They only use 9.3watts compared to stock 55watts and they put out 2400 lumens with crisp cutoff compared to stock 1350 lumens. The color is a little on the blue scale for me at 6000K but looks really good with DRLs. These bulbs are not cheap BUT....sometimes you get what you pay for (you knew that was coming). They are direct plug and play. They consume less power and burn much cooler than the stock halogen bulb so no worries with melting the housing. Phillips says that expected lifespan is 12 years with 3 year warranty. I bought mine from XenonDepot but do a search and find best pricing.
I use the same ones and have had zero issues. Just reached up through the fender gap, pulled out the old ones, plugged in the Phillips and was done. Only small problem was deciding how to deal with the excess cord length but I just zip tied it up. Little bit of a pain going blind but only took me about 30min total and I've been all set since.
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Re: 2014 GC Fog Light Question

I not sure about posting this here , but I have a 2015 GC Altitude and from day one the fog lights rattle to touch. I've been ignoring ,but I can't help and wonder if this rattle can be heard while driving just touching produces a pretty
load rattle. I'm just looking for some feed back or solutions for fix if someone has one.





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Re: 2014 GC Fog Light Question

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I use the same ones and have had zero issues. Just reached up through the fender gap, pulled out the old ones, plugged in the Phillips and was done. Only small problem was deciding how to deal with the excess cord length but I just zip tied it up. Little bit of a pain going blind but only took me about 30min total and I've been all set since.

I have the same ones as well with no issues.

I didn't know what to do with the excess wire length as well. I was debating on just letting it hang. I ended up using the supplied zip ties and secured the module part to an existing wire harness right above the fog light assembly.


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Re: 2014 GC Fog Light Question

I'm referring to the fog light itself, if you put your fingers on the outside of it you can wiggle it with your hand. I'm not sure if it makes noises while driving it
at least I haven't heard any rattling





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Re: 2014 GC Fog Light Question

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2015 GC Altitude and from day one the fog lights rattle to touch. I've been ignoring ,but I can't help and wonder if this rattle can be heard while driving just touching produces a pretty

load rattle.

Honestly, I'd take it back to the dealership and tell them to fix it. My fogs are solid. No movement at all from the outside or from the back when I was reaching up to screw/unscrew the bulbs.

Sounds like your whole assembly is loose which would mean taking the bumper off or removing the fender trim and going in from the back. Unfortunately, I don't really know how they're attached, that's why I say make the dealership fix it.

Good luck.
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