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Re: 2014 GC lights in 2011?

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If the leveling motors are not hooked up it will throw a fault code.... the code will not cause a CEL but it will show up when the vehicle is scanned.



Like PBALIAS said if the connectors can't be found you won't be able to have a plug and play harness.



It may be an option to to have a pigtail connector and you tap each of the connections. But having to tap individual wires it would be a technical swap.


After some extensive research, I can see why no one has produced the harness for us that already have factory HID. I've got the pin-out for 2014 connector, but I'm having some difficulty with the pin-out on the 12-13'. I use to have access to Techauthorityonline, but not anymore. The Mopar connector website is showing some conflicting information on the pin-out. It would be appreciated if someone had that info could share it, or point me in the right direction.
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Re: 2014 GC lights in 2011?

Subscribed! Just ordered a set for my 2011 overland.
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Re: 2014 GC lights in 2011?

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I am going to finish a harness today I was waiting for a package

I had ordered some plugs for the turn signals but they don't fit so I will have to use some 7443 bulbs and you will have to use the socket from the headlight.

I have not looked into figuring the wiring for a car with factory bi xenon as yet br cause I have not sourced a male 6pin plug for the front left bixenon headlight.
was a mating connector ever sourced for the turn signal socket?
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Re: 2014 GC lights in 2011?

I’ve seen a lot of people with factory HID’s asking about fitting 2014 lights into the 2011-2013’s. well here is a quick write up on how I did mine.



Functionality:
Everything works on these with the only exception being when the vehicle is in PARK the LED strip turns off. This is only in PARK, the LED strip dims when HID’s are turned on and functions appropriately in Auto mode. The LED strip also does NOT dim when blinker is in use. I couldn’t seem to get the LED strip to stay on in park or fade on blinker, our Jeeps don’t have the factory functionality and it wasn’t worth it to me to start hacking into the harness to tap a wire or build a circuit board.

No Codes! at least not yet? only been 2 days. will update if i get a CEL

Work:
I decided to cut some wires, this doesn’t bother me, it would take 20 minutes to hook the factory connectors back up. If you don’t want to cut anything, then feel free to try and source out all the different connectors or use taps. overall, with the correct parts and the supplied wire diagram, this shouldn't take more than 3 hours

Also, I had to do some slight grinding on the inner plastic fender support to properly fit the new lights (ballast heat sync was hitting it). you cannot see the plastic fender support and it isn't structural. Once I made some extra space The bolts lined up pretty good and the lights sit even.

Step 1: Source some lights
- Ebay…. cost me about 350 a piece + shipping for working lights without broken tabs.

Step 2: Order the needed parts:
- 16 Pin connector (2) : 33472-1601 Molex | Mouser
- Pins (100 smallest orderable amount): 33012-2022 (Cut Strip) Molex | Mouser

Step 3: Take apart the front end
- Look up some tutorials on bumper and headlight removal, not going to cover that here.

Step 4: Wire ID
- It’s smart to unhook the battery before cutting into anything!
- Reference attached image with wire color codes (I made this chart based off of my 2012 GC Overland w/ factory HIDs (w/ AFS), your wire colors may be different, so pay attention to what you unplug from your factory HID’s. Each light on Factory HID’s are sectioned into individual wire bundles [HID], [Blinker], [Ect.], it’s smart to label the bundles!) see photos.
- All the black wires are Grounds and any of them can be used as the ground for the 16 pin connector.

EDIT: Updated wire diagram, drew the first one completely backwards.



Step 5: Build wire harness as designated in photo
- You’ll need a pin crimp tool : IWISS Dupont Professional Pin Compression Ratcheting Modular Insulated Terminal Crimper Pin Crimping Tool 2.54mm 3.96mm 28-18AWG 0.1-1.0mm2 with Wire-electrode Cutting Die - - Amazon.com

Optional:
- Finalize the conversion with some heat shrink wrap to waterproof the set up.

Step 6: test it out!
Sorry for the crappy tutorial, I'm still tinkering with this to try and get the led strips to stay on in park. but here is what i have for now



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2012 Factory HID connectors (W/ AFS)

2014 HID connectors (NON AFS)
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Re: 2014 GC lights in 2011?

nice lil write-up & pics! I'm attempting mine sometime this week...I got the mating connectors to make it all plug-n-play, wish me luck
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Re: 2014 GC lights in 2011?

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nice lil write-up & pics! I'm attempting mine sometime this week...I got the mating connectors to make it all plug-n-play, wish me luck
Don't know of it will work yet, am going to try it tonight to fix the LED strip in PARK issue. But try splicing the green wire 3 ways instead of 2 and hooking in the 12V constant (from the blinker bundle) Along with the two running light 12v's. The 12v constant has some sort of magic going on with it. Example: it's providing a constant 12V but won't power anything unless I switch the lights to manual! Once in manual the wire still produces the same 12v (5amps I believe) as it did when it was in auto. It sorta blew my mind and was part of the reason this took so long to figure out.

Update: nope, that didnt work.... emailing Pbalias to see what he did.
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Send Pbalias a pm and he will share his wiring conversion chart..

That was made from wiring repair kit pin outs.
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Don't know of it will work yet, am going to try it tonight to fix the LED strip in PARK issue. But try splicing the green wire 3 ways instead of 2 and hooking in the 12V constant (from the blinker bundle) Along with the two running light 12v's. The 12v constant has some sort of magic going on with it. Example: it's providing a constant 12V but won't power anything unless I switch the lights to manual! Once in manual the wire still produces the same 12v (5amps I believe) as it did when it was in auto. It sorta blew my mind and was part of the reason this took so long to figure out.

Update: nope, that didnt work.... emailing Pbalias to see what he did.

keep us updated here plz..thanks!
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Re: 2014 GC lights in 2011?

great read! suscribing
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Re: 2014 GC lights in 2011?

I would like to do this to my 15 limited, is it hard?
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I would like to do this to my 15 limited, is it hard?

so apparently it's easy to do the upgrade on 2011-2013 WITHOUT projectors...much more complicated with the 2014+ w/the CANBUS
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Re: 2014 GC lights in 2011?

Hey everyone! New to the forum and Grand Cherokees (but not new to Jeeps - currently have a CJ7 and 2014 JKUR). I am buying a 2011 Limited 4x4 5.7 for my wife and really would like to upgrade the lights. I haven't bought the 2011 limited yet... hope to pick it up later this week or first of next week. I don't believe it has the HID lights. Were those only an option on the Overland and SRT or did some limited 2011's have the option of HID lights?

IF I don't have the factory HID lights on the 2011 Limited is there a plug and play option for the 2014 HID lights? Thanks for any info you can give me.
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