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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

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Here's a picture of the harness if it helps with some notes he gave me.

Going to add my full write up and pictures soon.

This is all from Jeep_Addicted

Directions:
The fuse tap is simple. It goes into the Red 10 amp fuse in the Top left corner of the fuse box.

All the 12v+ connections go to the jump start terminal in the right side cowl area

Most of the - ground connections go to the - jump start terminal in the right side cowl area

One ground goes to the factory ground position in front of the right front wheel

And the lastly the two resistors need to be grounded to the chassis
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So...does this harness go just from the fuse box to the lights? Does it have anything running back to the interior dash light switch, or does it rely on the existing harness connections(with extra tie-ins to fuse box, grounds, etc.) to control the lights?

I was thinking it could just be a small adapter harness that plugs into the existing halogen harness with new connectors for the HID/LED lights...BUT...I obviously don't know jack about the intricacies of LED power/HID headlight requirements vs. Halogen. Needless to say I'm glad some people smarter in the vehicle electrical area are doing something to make this work...doesn't fry the ECU...that won't start my GC on fire...or melt anything that looks important...or anything like that!

When completed, by whomever gets it done flawlessly, and tested appropriately...will they be releasing the schematic, or selling a ready to go version of the harness for the masses?

ripped apart one of my junker LED/HID headlights...just to see how it all works...the polycarbonate LED reflector/light pipe piece is so cool, along with the load leveling adjuster motor pivot system...there is a reason these headlights are so expensive...definitely not just a housing and a bulb.

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I would sure appreciate a more detailed write-up sooner rather than later; the final pieces to the puzzle arrive today and Monday. I'd really like to do my install on Monday and a detailed write-up/photos could certainly help verify some aspects of the install.
Sorry was a busy weekend. I honestly don't have much more info than what was written above. I do want to show some pictures under the hood but haven't had a chance.

As for the install it was done by a guy I know who does installs for all types of vehicles. He basically just went off the directions I attached above. The schematics of the harness i have 0 idea on how it was comprised.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

UNCLE! I have given up for now. I got everything to work perfectly UNTIL I START THE ENGINE. Then I have no turn signals and no parking lights. Headlights/brights were easy; I just used a Mopar-spec Morimoto harness. Very frustrating that the schematic for this harness be some kind of super uber secret. If anyone knows of anyone that has one of these elusive harnesses and can photograph in hi-resolution all the various connections/relays/etc. I would very much appreciate it. Until then I guess I'll keep scouring the internet in hopes of more clues.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

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UNCLE! I have given up for now. I got everything to work perfectly UNTIL I START THE ENGINE. Then I have no turn signals and no parking lights. Headlights/brights were easy; I just used a Mopar-spec Morimoto harness. Very frustrating that the schematic for this harness be some kind of super uber secret. If anyone knows of anyone that has one of these elusive harnesses and can photograph in hi-resolution all the various connections/relays/etc. I would very much appreciate it. Until then I guess I'll keep scouring the internet in hopes of more clues.
Im not trying to start a war, and this is just my personal opinion, but don't you feel that's a little wrong to ask? I know forums are all about DIY and such, I get that. But Jeep Addicted spent his time and energy creating the harness, not only for himself, but also so he can make them for others at his leisure and make some money on the side. For someone to just ask for pics so they copy his work seems a little wrong.

(Just so you know, I barely know the guy, so its not like im trying to side with him or anything personal. I had a few interactions with him thru email, buts that's all.)

I have one of his harnesses. It's sitting in my downstairs, just waiting for me to install it one day with the headlights i have. If I see that he gives the okay, I will gladly take photos of it. But until then, I will not wreck someone else's work.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

Just my 2 cents. I designed and built a harness that was completely plug-n-play that allowed you to install factory projector headlamps in the 08-14 Challengers. I did a complete write-up showing exactly how to do it, and all the part numbers. I assisted many so they could do it themselves, and others by building it for them that didn't think they were up to the task. I never charged more than the cost of the materials and shipping cost. Not being a forum sponsor and trying to make money off fellow forum members is BS. Only sharing your knowledge through PM is BS. That is not what a forum is about. FYI, building a retrofit harness is not rocket science. Overwhelming for some is understandable, but the basic DIYer with basic electrical skills can build and install it.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

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Just my 2 cents. I designed and built a harness that was completely plug-n-play that allowed you to install factory projector headlamps in the 08-14 Challengers. I did a complete write-up showing exactly how to do it, and all the part numbers. I assisted many so they could do it themselves, and others by building it for them that didn't think they were up to the task. I never charged more than the cost of the materials and shipping cost. Not being a forum sponsor and trying to make money off fellow forum members is BS. Only sharing your knowledge through PM is BS. That is not what a forum is about. FYI, building a retrofit harness is not rocket science. Overwhelming for some is understandable, but the basic DIYer with basic electrical skills can build and install it.
I don't disagree with you. My point was simply that I wouldn't want to share someone else's work without them giving me the okay to. If I see the okay give, I'll take pics.
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I don't disagree with you. My point was simply that I wouldn't want to share someone else's work without them giving me the okay to. If I see the okay give, I'll take pics.


No worries. Not calling you out. Just my opinion on the matter. Completely respect your stance.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

I believe most are trying this mod currently have halogen lamps. If that's the case, it should be easy to build a retrofit harness. I believe a few in this thread were trying to install the '14 headlamps in the older model. After extensive research, it looks like electrical architecture is completely different between 12-13 and 14-newer. I suspect Jeep Addicted came to the same conclusion, and that is why he never responds to anyone when they ask about how to build a retrofit harness for a 12-13 that has factory projectors. I will gladly take the criticism if I misunderstood previous comments made from fellow members on this thread or the many I read related to this subject.
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I believe most are trying this mod currently have halogen lamps. If that's the case, it should be easy to build a retrofit harness. I believe a few in this thread were trying to install the '14 headlamps in the older model. After extensive research, it looks like electrical architecture is completely different between 12-13 and 14-newer. I suspect Jeep Addicted came to the same conclusion, and that is why he never responds to anyone when they ask about how to build a retrofit harness for a 12-13 that has factory projectors. I will gladly take the criticism if I misunderstood previous comments made from fellow members on this thread or the many I read related to this subject.
Yes, people who want this harness have the halogen headlamps and want to swap to the hid with led outline strip.

I have a '14 myself, so that's all I can speak to.
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Just my 2 cents. I designed and built a harness that was completely plug-n-play that allowed you to install factory projector headlamps in the 08-14 Challengers. I did a complete write-up showing exactly how to do it, and all the part numbers. I assisted many so they could do it themselves, and others by building it for them that didn't think they were up to the task. I never charged more than the cost of the materials and shipping cost. Not being a forum sponsor and trying to make money off fellow forum members is BS. Only sharing your knowledge through PM is BS. That is not what a forum is about. FYI, building a retrofit harness is not rocket science. Overwhelming for some is understandable, but the basic DIYer with basic electrical skills can build and install it.
I have a 2015 with the Halogen headlights. I have purchased the HID/LED versions, and just need a harness to make it all work. I have been a member of the M5Board for 10+ years, and it is all about posting DIY threads, videos, and parts lists to save the other members some time, and frustration and make their ownership experience a little better, and more cost effective. Mostly because BMW Stealerships are an issue.

There have been many instances of people posting a solution for all to use, whether it is a DIY install, or frankesteining parts together to form a better solution. Many times these DIY things have taken the poster hours, days, even weeks, or months to find out how to do it right. Some people like to be the go-to guys for things on a forum, and they probably like the rep.

I don't see this as anything different. Posting a schematic of a solution so others can use it, and possibly improve on it, is what these forums are all about...sharing information with the online community to help improve the ownership experience.

NOW...if somebody doesn't feel comfortable enough to tackle it on their own, and wants somebody to build them a harness, it is expected that they won't do it for free, and that they charge extra for their time, and effort...no issues with that whatsoever.

BUT if somebody wants to tackle it themselves, the forum should be the place to go to get the information, or a DIY thread, schematic, pictures, or video posted by other community members.

Whether Jeep_Addicted posts his schematic, or gets back to making these harnesses again(since he hasn't been seen in this thread since November 2015)...or somebody else comes up with a solution that works.

Just share it...that's what we're here for.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

I certainly understand everybody's viewpoint here. If I could actually buy a harness, I would. But there doesn't seem to be anyone willing to do that, and after working on this for several weeks I can understand a little bit why. It's been a major PITA sourcing all the plugs and such. If you can build these harnesses and sell them, I'm all for it. You should profit from your hard work. The vast majority of people on these forums aren't going to attempt to build their own harness; they just want to buy one. But there seem to be folks that have built these harnesses that aren't selling them, they just don't seem to want to share. Which is definitely their prerogative. It just makes me feel like they're thumbing their noses at me, cause they've figured it out and I haven't.
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I certainly understand everybody's viewpoint here. If I could actually buy a harness, I would. But there doesn't seem to be anyone willing to do that, and after working on this for several weeks I can understand a little bit why. It's been a major PITA sourcing all the plugs and such. If you can build these harnesses and sell them, I'm all for it. You should profit from your hard work. The vast majority of people on these forums aren't going to attempt to build their own harness; they just want to buy one. But there seem to be folks that have built these harnesses that aren't selling them, they just don't seem to want to share. Which is definitely their prerogative. It just makes me feel like they're thumbing their noses at me, cause they've figured it out and I haven't.


So let's see if we can figure out. Can you post some pics of the factory connectors and what they plug into?
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