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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

The bi-zenon lights only have this 16-pin Molex connector that powers everything:



A readily available 16-pin Molex connector plugs into this (although only 6 pins are used as far as I can tell). These six are shown here:



The standard halogen headlights use a Molex MX150 4-pin connector for the low beams and 9005 connector for the high beams:

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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

The best photo I have found of the whole harness assembled:



BTW, if anyone has access to a proven, functioning harness schematic, I would be willing to pay for it at this point.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

Floral prints with zebra prints... We're getting off to good start.
Okay, I'm seeing the common resisters that would be necessary for the LED turn signals, white ribbon running lights, and HID's. Also seeing, matting plugs for all your factory connectors, and the '14 lamps. The most important part of the harness is conveniently tucked against the pillow. Depending on whether its important to you, there might also be a need for a DRL dimmer for ribbon lights. Let me find the pin out for 16 pin connector so we can confirm what you have posted.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

Okay, pin outs look correct. I see from your pics that you have some of the connectors. Can you post up a list of everything you have?
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

I have two 16-pin Molex connectors, all wired and functional. I was able to bench test my connectors on a bi-zenon headlight and everything connects as the pin-out photo shows. I have the 4-pin connector (low beam) and the 9005 connector (hi beam) running to my Morimoto harness for the low and hi beam function; this works fine. I have four 6 ohm 50 watt resistors that I attempted to use, but evidently not correctly. I have read that if you need 3 ohms it is better to put two 6 ohm resistors in parallel to get 3 ohms. That way you split up the load and they each don't get as hot. I put the resistors across the signal input and ground and it seemed to work fine until I started the engine, at which point they didn't work (flashed a little here and there and then the dash reported bulb out message). There appears to be a dual relay used in this harness and I think that may be where I'm missing something important. Also appears to be a capacitor used in the turn signal circuit as well.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

Okay, so which morimoto harness do you have?
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

It's the Mopar-spec bi-zenon harness:

H13/9008 Mopar MotoControl Bi-xenon Harness : Relay Wire Harnesses : Morimoto HID

I was able to wire together the 4-pin low beam connector (2 pins used: signal and ground) and the 9005 hi beam connector (2 pins: signal and ground) to an H13 connector. Then connected that to the Morimoto harness. This seemed to work fine. Headlights/brights worked under all conditions (key off, key on, engine running). I am beginning to think one of my problems is that I ran the ground (pin 7 on the Molex 16-pin connector) to chassis ground. I am attaching a photo of the harness I was attempting to duplicate which has several differences from the photos I posted earlier. This one uses the Morimoto harness I used:



There is obviously more than one way to do this...
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that the turn signals require a relay to operate. I originally thought that the relays where there to dim the DRLs when the parking lights were on, but now I think that's not the case. I don't really need the DRLs to dim, or shut off when the turn signals are used. At this point I would be happy if the DRLs were just wired to ignition source and stayed on whenever the key is on. Dimming when headlights are activated would be gravy. In that last photo, there appears to be a red wire coming from each of the relays; I assume this goes to battery + but don't know for sure.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

"There is obviously more than one way to do this"
Well said. Let me do some research, and I'll get back to you in a day or two.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

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I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that the turn signals require a relay to operate. I originally thought that the relays where there to dim the DRLs when the parking lights were on, but now I think that's not the case. I don't really need the DRLs to dim, or shut off when the turn signals are used. At this point I would be happy if the DRLs were just wired to ignition source and stayed on whenever the key is on. Dimming when headlights are activated would be gravy. In that last photo, there appears to be a red wire coming from each of the relays; I assume this goes to battery + but don't know for sure.
Don't know if this bit if info will help you or if it confirms yor theory, but jeep addicted told me "TDR-PO modules that control switchback function, these are made to order by the vendor"

No clue if it's even the same thing you're talking about, but it sounded somewhat related

I searched tdr-po and came across this
http://www.wolstentech.com/products/...relay/app7.php

Again, no clue if it helps...
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