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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

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Don't know if this bit if info will help you or if it confirms yor theory, but jeep addicted told me "TDR-PO modules that control switchback function, these are made to order by the vendor"

No clue if it's even the same thing you're talking about, but it sounded somewhat related

I searched tdr-po and came across this
Automotive Time-Delay Relay Applications

Again, no clue if it helps...
Interesting... thanks!

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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

Im in for helping find a solution! I refuse to settle for the Eagle Eyes LED solution. Hoping this harness doesn't cost as much as the lights, as im seeing the parts required are adding up fast!

I have the base and premium electrical wiring diagrams if interested. Most of it is simple but the DRL controller and switchback functions are the tough part. There are plenty of relays involved that don't look like they are included in the fuse box on the base (halogen) model.

Lets figure this out!
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

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Im in for helping find a solution! I refuse to settle for the Eagle Eyes LED solution. Hoping this harness doesn't cost as much as the lights, as im seeing the parts required are adding up fast!

I have the base and premium electrical wiring diagrams if interested. Most of it is simple but the DRL controller and switchback functions are the tough part. There are plenty of relays involved that don't look like they are included in the fuse box on the base (halogen) model.

Lets figure this out!
If there is a way to post the wiring diagrams...are these for 2015? 2014?
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

It seems fairly straightforward to get a wiring schematic for the existing OEM Halogen headlights(functionality), and an OEM schematic for the BI-Xenon/LED wiring, that it should give the information required to create a plug-and-play harness.

If somebody can supply wiring schematics for both of these for a 2015, 2014, it would be a great starting point to tackle this logically.

Electrical wiring has never been my strong suit, but I'd be happy to help where I can...

I know it won't help, but the wiring harness from the INSIDE of the headlight is pretty complex on these Bi-Xenon ones...impressive
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

This is for both 2014-2015 premium headlight wiring. I can provide link if picture is too small. The basic wiring is tougher to find, but I can provide if we think it's necessary.

Im not sure the attachment properly loaded, here it is as a PDF
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

If you guys really want, I'm sure the folks at The RetrofitSource will build a harness. They have one for the F150. I imagine it won't be cheap either. $2-300 easily.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

Okay, here's what I've come up with. If anyone wants to go over this and see if they can find anything wrong, please do. One thing I'm unsure about is the capacitor direction in the parking light circuit (at the bottom on both sides). Feedback is appreciated...
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

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Okay, here's what I've come up with. If anyone wants to go over this and see if they can find anything wrong, please do. One thing I'm unsure about is the capacitor direction in the parking light circuit (at the bottom on both sides). Feedback is appreciated...
The capacitors are correct I believe. I follow most of this and based from the wiring it looks like you have a great start. The tough part will be still be putting the dry controller aspect into this. Also, on the passenger side won't we need to use a can bus module to eliminate error messages.

My questions lie in how you know where to place the capacitors and resistors. Load resistors make sense, but I thought they were for the dimming of the led drl circuit.

I have pm'd you some more helpful info as well FYI
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

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The capacitors are correct I believe. I follow most of this and based from the wiring it looks like you have a great start. The tough part will be still be putting the dry controller aspect into this. Also, on the passenger side won't we need to use a can bus module to eliminate error messages.

My questions lie in how you know where to place the capacitors and resistors. Load resistors make sense, but I thought they were for the dimming of the led drl circuit.

I have pm'd you some more helpful info as well FYI
Both headlights are controlled by the single Morimoto harness, so only one "canbus module" is required.

The resistors are to simulate the load of a standard bulb, so the computer won't think there's a bulb out. They don't have anything to do with the DRL circuit.

The capacitors are there to "smooth out" the PWM of the circuit so the relays won't buzz. The relays simply allow full current to the DRL when not active, and then cut full current to the DRLs when the parking lights (and, therefore, headlights) are activated.

Diodes are to make sure the computer doesn't get feedback from the circuit. I found this very common LED circuit online in several places, so I'm fairly confident that this is the main piece to the puzzle I was missing.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

What model Morimoto Relay are you specifying here? Also, is the H13 connector a solution factory wired from Morimoto? I know our Jeeps use H11 bulbs, which I assume you knew, so whats your reason for the H13? I havent looked, but im fairly confident our models do not include the 3 relays included on the hid/led models. I see that the Morimoto harness will most likely include two relays handling the left and right HID lamp drivers, but why do you have two relays for the parking lamps and DRL lamps when you could use just one with taps? I don't think its hurting anything how you have it, but just trying to eliminate some parts!

Next topic will be the build. Do you plan on attempting to build this prototype soon?
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

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What model Morimoto Relay are you specifying here? Also, is the H13 connector a solution factory wired from Morimoto? I know our Jeeps use H11 bulbs, which I assume you knew, so whats your reason for the H13? I havent looked, but im fairly confident our models do not include the 3 relays included on the hid/led models. I see that the Morimoto harness will most likely include two relays handling the left and right HID lamp drivers, but why do you have two relays for the parking lamps and DRL lamps when you could use just one with taps? I don't think its hurting anything how you have it, but just trying to eliminate some parts!

Next topic will be the build. Do you plan on attempting to build this prototype soon?
The Morimoto harness I am using:
H13/9008 Mopar MotoControl Bi-xenon Harness : Relay Wire Harnesses : Morimoto HID

It's a H13 harness and I used an H13 pigtail just to keep from cutting up the Morimoto harness. It is not really needed; you could just cut off the H13 connector and hard-wire the H11 and 9005 connectors to the Morimoto harness. The Morimoto harness handles the low and high beam functions; this I have verified. I guess you don't really need two relays for the parking light/DRL function; you only need one to provide a signal to both parking lights/DRL LEDs since they don't have to operate individually. I should have everything I need by Wednesday, though I was really hoping for some input and/or critiques on my schematic before pulling the bumper cover for the third time.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

Okay, some corrections and some simplification in this new schematic...
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