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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

Would it still be possible to turn the DRLs on and off in the settings or would that option be gone? I'm definitely interested if it behaves as close to stock as possible.
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Would it still be possible to turn the DRLs on and off in the settings or would that option be gone? I'm definitely interested if it behaves as close to stock as possible.
Think of this as a retrofit, because this is what it will be.

You won't have control of the DRLs in the settings menu because they are not connected.


The laredo does not have the same wiring as the ones that are equipped with the LED drls.

I found this out when I was doing the DRL retrofit to my 2012 laredo with upgraded headlights.

To control the drls you have to control them with either a relay or some other type of aftermarket controller. And depending on what type of function you want you would have come up with components that would handle that as well.


On the 2011-2013 I used a controller that has these basic functions.

1. DRL On when engine is running.
2. Drl off when park lights are activated.
3. Has an optional input for a switch that can be added to the parking brake or dash mounted switch. (In my case I added a switch to my gear lever to activate the drl when you shifted out of park)



If you take a look at the photos, the first one shows the components that handle the functions,

The small black box controls the DRL coming on and off.

The other boxes with the lettering on them control the DRL shutting off with when the turnsignal flashes. One for each side is need.

The OEM wiring is pretty much the same with the CAN BUS controlling the DRLs on and off signal and for the DRL turnsignal shut off there is a relay for each turnsignal.
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

Any ideas on how much the prices will be for these harnesses?
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

Do you by any chance have the pin outs for the headlights? I have so ideas on how to be able to turn the DRLs on and off in the settings but I want to look at the pinouts and do some experimenting with a volt meter on jeep when I get home this weekend.

Also, how does the pass to flash work on the HID headlights? Does it pull the curtain for the high beams and turn on the HIDs or is something else happening like a separate light bulb? I'm not all that familiar with the HID headlights hence what is probably a very stupid question.

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I've been thinking of various ways to get this to behave as factory as possible but that would probably drive cost of parts up since I would need to either get controllers or design a circuit that will trigger different things based on the voltages their seeing along with getting a proper LED driver.

I haven't done much testing on my own yet since I've been traveling a lot for work but I'm assuming that DRLs in halogens just feed around 6-7 volts to the headlights to make them dimmer. If that's the case, we could look into having a controller or a circuit that looks for 0 volts, which is completely off, 6-ish volts, which means the DRLs are on and then 12 volts, which would mean the headlights are on along with the LEDs. This is just me thinking out loud without doing any of my proding with a volt meter. Please let me know if my assumptions are completely wrong.

Edit2: I wonder how durable something like an arduino is. Could potentially be a good controller to handle everything.
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Do you by any chance have the pin outs for the headlights? I have so ideas on how to be able to turn the DRLs on and off in the settings but I want to look at the pinouts and do some experimenting with a volt meter on jeep when I get home this weekend.

Also, how does the pass to flash work on the HID headlights? Does it pull the curtain for the high beams and turn on the HIDs or is something else happening like a separate light bulb? I'm not all that familiar with the HID headlights hence what is probably a very stupid question.

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I've been thinking of various ways to get this to behave as factory as possible but that would probably drive cost of parts up since I would need to either get controllers or design a circuit that will trigger different things based on the voltages their seeing along with getting a proper LED driver.

I haven't done much testing on my own yet since I've been traveling a lot for work but I'm assuming that DRLs in halogens just feed around 6-7 volts to the headlights to make them dimmer. If that's the case, we could look into having a controller or a circuit that looks for 0 volts, which is completely off, 6-ish volts, which means the DRLs are on and then 12 volts, which would mean the headlights are on along with the LEDs. This is just me thinking out loud without doing any of my proding with a volt meter. Please let me know if my assumptions are completely wrong.

Edit2: I wonder how durable something like an arduino is. Could potentially be a good controller to handle everything.

You are correct on the WK2 the flash to pass works by lowering the shutter and activating the hid bulb.

I am sure if you are very knowledgeable with electronic controllers you can engineer something to do exactly what you want.

I am not an electronic wiz and basically find consumer products that do what I need I would love for someone to come up with a single electronic controller that would control DRL cut off because it is a feature that many cars have now and there are lots of people wanting to retrofits so this would be a good product for the aftermarket
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Re: 2014 Jeep OEM Projected headlight to OEM HID headlight

Here are some photos of the 2014 headlight upgrade adapter harness in progress.

Photo #1 is of the low beam connector (grey).

Photo # 2: You can see the "y" adapter for the low beam and high beam connectors mated to the CAN-BUS error corrector. I am waiting for my 16 pin connector shipment to arrive to finish the adapter.
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Has anyone experience there HID light shuting off in the day light mode on the 2014 Gran Cherokee Limited ? Mine work fine in automatic mode at night, during the day they sometimes shut off, I have the error code eliminator relays installed.
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Has anyone experience there HID light shuting off in the day light mode on the 2014 Gran Cherokee Limited ? Mine work fine in automatic mode at night, during the day they sometimes shut off, I have the error code eliminator relays installed.
From my experience the Laredo DRL (lowbeam at reduced power) don't have enough power to keep the HID ballast going in DRL mode.


On my car the DRLs would flash three times like a strobe and stay off.


(Disclaimer this happened on my 2011) But the halogen wiring is basically unchanged from the 2011-2013 only difference is the low beam plug was changed from H11 to a proprietary connector that attaches to the headlight housing.
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