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Old 12-05-2015, 06:49 PM
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Re: 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland LED conversion kit installed in Fog Lights

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That's why I chose the d3 Osram cbi bulbs myself
The 6000k Ultinon actually have a lower lumen output

If you look at the pics I posted previously you'll see how mine look

The osram 5000k with the 6000k opt7's on fog ..with the factory Drl and it all matches very nicely


At this point, I am now considering perhaps just doing an HID conversion for the fogs and doing an actual 4300k there and just leave the Headlights alone. From what I have found, the HID conversion FOGs is my best bet to get high lumen output below a 5000k color. I am not really opposed to 5000k or greater, as I have 5800k on my Rubicon and that is great (Trucklite LED headlights and Recon LED FOGS). The reason I am looking at this HID is that I would expect a true match to the headlight, but also in the end this would be the cheapest route. I wouldn't have to spend $200 on replacement headlight bulbs to match the 6000k color from a high output LED FOG like the Opt7. The only issue this creates is the install of the HID is a bit more involved than an LED alternative. I hope space is not an issue for the ballast. Something like this may be the best and cheapest bet in the end to get true matching color, high output on the FOGS, and not compromise anything performance wise with the headlights (considering the argument that you lose lumens with increase in color temp).

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Old 12-06-2015, 05:31 PM
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Re: 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland LED conversion kit installed in Fog Lights

But I thought there is issues with HID's in non HID housings re heat and reflective design? I was of the understanding that the HID's will work but that you won't get proposer reflective effort and you run the risk of overheating the housing. But WTF do I know...
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Old 12-06-2015, 05:36 PM
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Re: 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland LED conversion kit installed in Fog Lights

Honestly - the color difference between the OPT7's and the factory HID's isn't noticeable. The factory fogs are yellow. The OPT7's are crisp white.

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Old 12-06-2015, 05:52 PM
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But I thought there is issues with HID's in non HID housings re heat and reflective design? I was of the understanding that the HID's will work but that you won't get proposer reflective effort and you run the risk of overheating the housing. But WTF do I know...

Partially correct. Halogen projectors aren't made for HID, but can handle them quite well. I have the Xtreme 5000k kit in factory halogen housings and they do a really nice job at cut off with minimal light spill.

Also, I have ran HID in factory projector and non projector housings and have not melted anything yet. They can handle the heat just fine.


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Re: 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland LED conversion kit installed in Fog Lights

Speaking of heat, given that I have one LED and one regular bulb, I was able to compare the heat output. Unfortunately I no longer have a digital thermometer available to me, but simply covering either bulb - as to see the light output difference - I can report that the factory bulb delivers intense heat to the fog light assembly whereas the LED-equipped fog light is cool to touch.

The HIDs are also much cooler to touch then regular filament bulbs.

I also feel there is minimal color difference between the OPT-7 and the factory HIDs.
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:04 AM
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Re: 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland LED conversion kit installed in Fog Lights

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Partially correct. Halogen projectors aren't made for HID, but can handle them quite well. I have the Xtreme 5000k kit in factory halogen housings and they do a really nice job at cut off with minimal light spill.

Also, I have ran HID in factory projector and non projector housings and have not melted anything yet. They can handle the heat just fine.


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So with your experience do you think the OPT7 would work as a good low beam replacement in my 2013 GC stock halogen housing (re: heat, cutoff, light spill)? Want to closely match 6000k fogs (different brand) already replaced.
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So with your experience do you think the OPT7 would work as a good low beam replacement in my 2013 GC stock halogen housing (re: heat, cutoff, light spill)? Want to closely match 6000k fogs (different brand) already replaced.

The 13's don't have projector housings like the 14+ do.

They are good choice but I am not a fan of moving parts. They have a fan to keep them cool. For a few dollars more you could get XenonDepot H11 LED which have heat sink so less chance of failure, and are rated at 2500 lumens each. It is what I will be running in my fog lights soon


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Re: 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland LED conversion kit installed in Fog Lights

I think there are some misleading statements here. Both the OPT-7 and the Xenon Depot LED have a heat sink. Whereas the XD relies on a ribbon design to increase the surface area and dissipate heat, the OPT-7 also incorporates active cooling. I also think that the ribbon design is not entirely fail proof either just as the fan use is also questionable. But at the end of the day, we all have computer towers with fans that keep working for years and years.

In 15 years and over 30 devices with fans, from laptops to desktop towers, power sources to graphic cards and research instrumentation to cable boxes, I never had a fan fail. They get noisy, dirty, spin slower, but I am surely hoping this isn't the first device with a fan failure.
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Re: 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland LED conversion kit installed in Fog Lights

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The 13's don't have projector housings like the 14+ do.

They are good choice but I am not a fan of moving parts. They have a fan to keep them cool. For a few dollars more you could get XenonDepot H11 LED which have heat sink so less chance of failure, and are rated at 2500 lumens each. It is what I will be running in my fog lights soon


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Thanks for the advice. I hadn't checked that option out. Are you referring to the H11 LED 6000k 2500 lumens each kit?
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Thanks for the advice. I hadn't checked that option out. Are you referring to the H11 LED 6000k 2500 lumens each kit?

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Re: 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland LED conversion kit installed in Fog Lights

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The 13's don't have projector housings like the 14+ do.

They are good choice but I am not a fan of moving parts. They have a fan to keep them cool. For a few dollars more you could get XenonDepot H11 LED which have heat sink so less chance of failure, and are rated at 2500 lumens each. It is what I will be running in my fog lights soon


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So what is the difference in the projector housing for 14+ vs my '13? Is the housing in your '12 JGC the same as my '13 and if so did you already upgrade your low beams as you are putting the XenonDepot lights in your fogs? Btw...I checked out the XD lights and def look like an option. They are a little dimmer at 2500 lumens (vs 3500 in OPT7) but I like the idea of no fan.
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Re: 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland LED conversion kit installed in Fog Lights

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So what is the difference in the projector housing for 14+ vs my '13? Is the housing in your '12 JGC the same as my '13 and if so did you already upgrade your low beams as you are putting the XenonDepot lights in your fogs? Btw...I checked out the XD lights and def look like an option. They are a little dimmer at 2500 lumens (vs 3500 in OPT7) but I like the idea of no fan.

The 11-13 years were non projectors housings. The 14+ have a projector low beam.

When i had my 2012 Altitude, I ran the Xtreme 5000k HIDs in it.

I have recently upgraded to a low mileage 14 limited fully loaded and am again using the Xtreme 5000k HID kit, although the beam pattern is much better because of the projector housing. For the fogs, I am getting the XenonDepot H11 LED because it has no moving fan to keep it cool. To the naked eye, 2500 lumens are bright. Also, I highly doubt the Amazon OPT7 are 3500 lumens. Highly doubt.


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