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Old 12-09-2011, 10:42 AM
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Re: Be careful with LED DRL's

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The cloudy area above the DRLs is apparently normal on HID equipped cars. Several people have mentioned it in this thread and I myself have it - I also went to a dealership and verified it exists on stock HID GCs.
HID based WK2's seem to be more likely to get the clouded spot but I believe it does not come like that from the factory. There are brand new HID based GC's at my local dealer that do not have any cloudyness at all... and some that do, but they all have some demo miles on them.

Does anyone else also have a discoloration mark on the grey base that the bulb plugs into, specifically two slight marks on either side?

The only explination that I can guess at is perhaps there is some kind of coating on the stock bulbs that once heated vaporizes and clouds the lense (on purpose??). This might explain why the demo units at dealers have it (they ran the vehicle long emough for the DRL's to get up to full temp) but the fresh off the truck Jeeps do not have it.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:45 AM
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Re: Be careful with LED DRL's

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Does anyone else also have a discoloration mark on the grey base that the bulb plugs into, specifically two slight marks on either side?

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I don't have any sign of cloudiness anywhere, but I don't have HIDs.....
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:47 AM
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Re: Be careful with LED DRL's

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I found cloudy on top on reflector now... HU!!!

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Which LED DRL really works without problems?
Better go back to bulbs?
How to replace or clean reflectors?
Thanks for posting Franco - How long did you drive the Jeep before replacing the stock bulbs and are you certain the fog was not there when you installed the LED's?

You can clean it off but it's very difficult to reach and it is VERY easy to wipe the chrome reflective paint right off IF you scrub too hard. Also I would not recommend using any chemicals other than mild soap and a little water as you dont want to ruin the whole housing over cloudyness that 99% of people would not notice unless you pointed it out.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:50 AM
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I don't have any sign of cloudiness anywhere, but I don't have HIDs.....

Yeah the HIDs seem to be the bulk of the complaints. My first Laredo X did not get the fog at all either and I also had LED's installed in there for months.

On the new overland the cloudyness was in there with the stock bulbs, I cleaned it out then installed the LED's and so far it has not come back (over a month of DRL use)
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:51 AM
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:39 PM
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Re: Be careful with LED DRL's

^ True

But I'd still like to get to the bottom of this as to if it is supposed to be like that or if it is due to the result of a electrical or bulb failure.
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Re: Be careful with LED DRL's

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Yeah the HIDs seem to be the bulk of the complaints. My first Laredo X did not get the fog at all either and I also had LED's installed in there for months.

On the new overland the cloudyness was in there with the stock bulbs, I cleaned it out then installed the LED's and so far it has not come back (over a month of DRL use)
How did you clean it?
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Re: Be careful with LED DRL's

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^ True

But I'd still like to get to the bottom of this as to if it is supposed to be like that or if it is due to the result of a electrical or bulb failure.
Again, 2011 overland, HID; cloudness is standard. Been there from factory. Led's installed, stayed the same. No heat problems, no expolding bulbs. Been there for about 5 months now in the DRL's.
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Re: Be careful with LED DRL's

^Sorry 604, I'm a bit of an ass sometimes. Please don't kick a dead ass either.

To conclude, I believe we have learned:

1) Make sure you have an appropriately spec'd LED bulb, especially for long runtime DRL's, regardless of the manufacturer.
2) Thanks to Jorde, there is a complete list of appropriately spec'd bulbs for each lighting component in the WK2 - read it. All are plug and play except for the main outboard brake and turn signal bulbs which need a ballast for LED.
3) It is worth it to purchase a higher quality bulb for these primarily bulb applications vs. a cheap version.
4) Even the highest quality LED's can go bad, so check your bulbs regularly.
5) If you follow the above, LED's provide a nicer quality light, at lower energy consumption, and at lower temps. Longer term use by both WK and WK2 forum members confirms this is a great upgrade, get some.
6) If you do not follow the above an incorrect bulb spec or malfunctining bulb can cause high heat, melted bulbs/transistors, and perhaps other peripheral damage.
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^Sorry 604, I'm a bit of an ass sometimes. Please don't kick a dead ass either.

To conclude, I believe we have learned:

1) Make sure you have an appropriately spec'd LED bulb, especially for long runtime DRL's, regardless of the manufacturer.
2) Thanks to Jorde, there is a complete list of appropriately spec'd bulbs for each lighting component in the WK2 - read it. All are plug and play except for the main outboard brake and turn signal bulbs which need a ballast for LED.
3) It is worth it to purchase a higher quality bulb for these primarily bulb applications vs. a cheap version.
4) Even the highest quality LED's can go bad, so check your bulbs regularly.
5) If you follow the above, LED's provide a nicer quality light, at lower energy consumption, and at lower temps. Longer term use by both WK and WK2 forum members confirms this is a great upgrade, get some.
6) If you do not follow the above an incorrect bulb spec or malfunctining bulb can cause high heat, melted bulbs/transistors, and perhaps other peripheral damage.
About time we put this to bed
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Thanks Moose. To sum up putco engineers response as well. It's due to higher then normal surround temp due in part to the HID. This is not a common failure and I am one of only a handful of failures of the neutron bulb. I disagree with the summary given as I know many others run the putco nova 360 without any melting. I do agree though that the jeep "grille" reflector is probably sending back to much heat as the neutron is forward facing. So it maybe be a combination of the two.
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Re: Be careful with LED DRL's

i have surefire led flashlights, not sure if it's similar but it gets very warm after about 3 minutes of continous use...i can imagine how hot the LED DRLs get after being on for hours and in the light housing with not a lot of air ventilation. YMMV.
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