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Re: Blacked out headlights...

Robpp,

Sorry if I offended your sensibilities, actually no I'm not...........

If you read the entire thread you'll see first he asked for an opinion, I gave it assuming he meant what I see around here on rice, which is painted lenses intended to black out the lights. He clarified what he was asking and I apologized to him and agreed it would look good. (post #7)

You are correct that I'm critical on other threads too but I don't get personal and I don't attack the poster, just the content of the post. You, OTOH seem to take pleasure in attacking the poster if they post something you don't like. YOU are the one acting like a bad ass behind the keyboard, not me.

I wasn't aware that this was a fanboy site where everything everyone does requires a thumbs up to boost their ego. I'll take that into account from now on.
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Old 02-12-2011, 08:48 PM
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Re: Blacked out headlights...

...can't we all just get along...

Anyone can interpret what someone writes in a totally different manner from which the writer intended it. In this case, an opinion was offered which, in my mind, was irrelevant as it didn't pertain to the topic, but an opinion nonetheless - which is the reality and fun of online forums. For the record, it seemed irrelevant to me because I knew the post was about opening the lenses up not painting or tinting the exterior.

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What are your plans for the amber reflector; just curious? Did you just buy the paint from a dealership? How much do you figure will get the job done? I am trying to decide if i want to do flat black, gloss black or color match (Brilliant Black Pearl).
Also, you mentioned swapping to HiDs... what brand, size and output? I want to swap mine as well and am unsure of the proper bulbs. Did you also go for the HiD fogs? If so, same question; brand, size and output?

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Re: Blacked out headlights...

Blacking out the inside chrome in headlights is cool if its done right. The problem with doing this is no one knows yet how easy/hard it is to get these new 2011+ headlights apart. Sometimes they come apart easy and others literally do not come apart. I think its the 2005-2010 headlamps literally do not seperate. The glue does not soften when heated like on most headlamps. Even if you can get them apart sometimes getting them together again perfectly is an issue, and if you think you did do it right later you might get condensation build up. All im saying is if your going to do it it better be worth it because I would hate to ruin a nice set of headlights on a brand new SUV. I think in the case of the 2011 if its a Limited or Overland leave them chrome as it actually matches very nicely with all the other chrome accents.

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Re: Blacked out headlights...

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What are your plans for the amber reflector; just curious? Did you just buy the paint from a dealership? How much do you figure will get the job done? I am trying to decide if i want to do flat black, gloss black or color match (Brilliant Black Pearl).
Also, you mentioned swapping to HiDs... what brand, size and output? I want to swap mine as well and am unsure of the proper bulbs. Did you also go for the HiD fogs? If so, same question; brand, size and output?

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1. Not sure about the amber reflector yet...I HATE it. The SEMA trucks appear to have a clear reflector. I'm sure Valeo built those one of a kind lights per ChryCo's special request for the SEMA trucks. When I get in there, I guess I'll figure it out.

2. I ordered the paint online from automotivetouchup.com. I ordered Brilliant Black Pearl in aerosol and an aerosol clear coat. I thought about it long and hard, and think body color will look best.

3. HIDs were ordered from Xenondepot. I paid extra for the Japanese/German components as opposed to the Chinese components. It's the 5202 kit in 4300K. I'm going to have the bumper off when installing the HIDs, so I plan on doing a really nice, OEM-look install.

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Blacking out the inside chrome in headlights is cool if its done right. The problem with doing this is no one knows yet how easy/hard it is to get these new 2011+ headlights apart. Sometimes they come apart easy and others literally do not come apart. I think its the 2005-2010 headlamps literally do not seperate. The glue does not soften when heated like on most headlamps. Even if you can get them apart sometimes getting them together again perfectly is an issue, and if you think you did do it right later you might get condensation build up. All im saying is if your going to do it it better be worth it because I would hate to ruin a nice set of headlights on a brand new SUV. I think in the case of the 2011 if its a Limited or Overland leave them chrome as it actually matches very nicely with all the other chrome accents.

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James, all valid points. I had a preliminary look at the headlights and noted the adhesive looks the same same as other Valero lights I've baked in the past. Problem is, I think I'll be one of the first to do this procedure on the WK2, so I'm the guinea pig. It's all good, I think the results will be worth it.

I have the limited. FOR ME...there's just too much chrome on the front end. Actually, it's not an issue of too much chrome, but I think the chrome in the light bezels makes the lights look one piece with the grille. To me, it's tacky. I prefer the chrome be broken up a bit, so body color bezels should do the trick. I REALLY think the lights will stand out better. I think ChryCo agrees, that's why they did the SEMA trucks that way.
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Re: Blacked out headlights...

I'm also curious about what this (taking the headlight assemblies apart) would do in terms of the warranty if something were to fail with respect to the HID lights?
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you wouldnt have a warranty on the headlamps
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Re: Blacked out headlights...

Yeah, I was afraid of that.
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1. Not sure about the amber reflector yet...I HATE it. The SEMA trucks appear to have a clear reflector. I'm sure Valeo built those one of a kind lights per ChryCo's special request for the SEMA trucks. When I get in there, I guess I'll figure it out.
If you look at the pictures of non-US WK2's you see they don't have the amber side reflector but since they have the fender light I don't know if there's any bulb in the front or if it's an amber bulb with a clear reflector. One of the first things I did on both my Cayenne and Boxster was to replace the side indicator with the ROW part that was smoked with an amber bulb.

Maybe Dunecrawler can chime in on whether there's a bulb in the front lens and maybe come up with an international part number?



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Re: Blacked out headlights...

you will have to buy an export part from a foreign dealer. Domestic dealers cannot order export parts. Thats not saying it cant be done...but be ready to spend about double what the cost of the part is here. For instance.....I have the export taillights on my WK.....they cost me about $425 to get here from Great Britain.

IMO...your best option is to split open the lamps, paint them and add a new lense to the side marker lamp. There are a few options for the side marker lense...but its gonna be a do it yourself. One option is to buy an overhead flourescent light cover...cut a piece out, heat it up and mold it to oem lense. Then cut and install. I have seen it done on other vehicles...and it is easier than it sounds.
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Re: Blacked out headlights...

I want to install my Halo Ring and I’m looking for the post that shows how to open the headlight!
I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee 2005 Limited !
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If I’m able to do it, I will take pictures and details in order to up load all the information!
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Any updates yet on this post im actually thinking of doing this on mine... but being a little whimp with little time.. lol
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Any updates yet on this post im actually thinking of doing this on mine... but being a little whimp with little time.. lol
Don't think so man. I tried like hell to get that light housing open. The epoxy used is resistant to temperature and won't release after heating it up. And as a former shop owner, I've done at least 100 pairs before on other vehicles using the heating up method.
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