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Old 06-28-2014, 06:22 PM
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Re: Hard driver's seat

I have lower back and sciatic nerve issues. I absolutely love my Overland seats.

Previous posters are correct... sitting on your wallet is one of the worst things you can do if you have these kinds of problems. The denser seat foam will only magnify it.
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Re: Hard driver's seat

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I think my overland seat is hard too, it isn't just the summit. I think it was even mentioned in one of the reviews I read.


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This thread was started a while ago, but I thought I would post my experience recently. My overland seat was getting to be unbearable, causing a lot of soreness is my tail bone area/sciatic nerve. I'm in my car at least an hour a day so I was contemplating getting rid of it. I started playing around with the seat adjustments and I found a setting that greatly improved the seat comfort. What I did was this:

Raised the seat to up all the way. I'm only 5'9" so even with the seat all the way up I still have plenty of head room. This is kind of weird at first, but the view of the road is better IMO. I also moved the tilt of the seat bottom all the way up in the front. I then moved the seat back till my left foot barely lays flat in the dead pedal area. This accomplished a couple things. First by moving the seat up, more of my weight is distributed across my the bottom of my thigh, not just my butt. Moving the seat back took most of the bend out of my knees, which also keeps my thigh on the seat. Before as I touched the brake pedal, the bend in my knee would lift my thigh off the seat and concentrate my weight just on my tailbone area.

I then moved the steering wheel towards me to get my arms comfortable. With my seat up higher, I was bumping the steering wheel when I got out of the car, so I turned on the easy exit feature. This moves the steering wheel up and the seat back when you turn off the car. I'm still undecided about this, as I don't really need the seat to move back to get out, I just wanted the steering wheel to move up. Unfortunately on the jeep you can't make it only do the steering wheel like you can on our mercedes.

I hope this helps somebody. I have never had this issue in my other vehicles, so I think the jeep seats are definitely harder than most, but these adjustments have made them tolerable.
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Re: Hard driver's seat

Part of the problem is a metal plate in the backrest which is connected to the headrest to make it pop forward during a wreck. It was bad in the Toyota 4Runners I sat in, and unbearable in a Subaru I drove.
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Re: Hard driver's seat

One thing that was better in my '14 Cherokee were the front seats. Best i've ever driven. Next time you are at the dealership try those because they are awesome, but I doubt they would fit in a GC without lots of custom fab...?
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Re: Hard driver's seat

I had major problems with the seat bottom on my 2015 limited. The side bolsters were way to hard and pressed on the side of my thighs producing some sciatica down my leg.

I had some left over sand bags from my old truck, they each way 55lbs I believe. I placed a sand bag on each bolster over night to squish them down. And I also put some leather conditioner on the seats. And sure enough they have broken in and softened up. When I compare the drivers to the passengers seat you can tell it has broken in and is now tolerable for long drives.

Kind of like breaking in a baseball mitt when your younger. Add some leather conditioner and wrap some rubber bands around it to get the shape you want.
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Re: Hard driver's seat

They are a bit firm, but I like them. Long trips require the wallet to come out of my back pocket, but cleaning it out so it isn't like George Costansa's wallet helps as well. The leather seats in my G9 are similar, maybe slightly wider and has thicker leather. They are leaps about bounds better than my old Tacoma seats whic were fine for 2 hrs or less seat time, 3 was pushing it. Never sat in such uncomfortable seats.
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Old 12-30-2014, 11:52 PM
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Re: Hard driver's seat

I've sat in my friends Limited leather seats (passenger side w/ no lumbar adjustment controls) and it felt so much more firm and uncomfortable than my Laredo cloth seats. So much so that I wouldn't want to go on a long trip in his.

Honestly the seat comfort was a huge part of the reason why I chose the GC in the first place and it was surprising to feel the difference between ours.

So I completely understand the annoyance of an uncomfortable seat at the end of the day. It makes all of the difference. I hated my '11 BMW 328 seats for being too hard and it was a deal breaker.

I wonder what the differences really are between these Jeep seats that cause such a different feel. I know the leather alone would be an unlikely culprit, but that seemed like the cause of the most firmness when I sat on them.
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Re: Hard driver's seat

Im with you 990, its the bottom seat side bolsters that make me uncomfortable. The firmness of the seats, (overland) don't bother me as much as the bottom seat being skinny and bottom seat sides being to high!
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Re: Hard driver's seat

I have an Overland and the seats are firm by American standards. Some of this is due to the leather being firmer than fabric. The rest of it IMO is due to the fact that the JGC design was Daimler's last gift to Chrysler. The chassis is based on the Mercedes ML 350 and I suspect the seats are similar to Mercedes seats in firmness. I have owned 2 BMWs and their seats are much harder than any American or Japanese car. Over time they break in and conform to your body, but it can take months before that happens. I have a a 6 year old 335 coupe and I have never been really comfortable in the sport seats.

As for your back, the seat has an adjustable lumbar support, which should help a lot. I don't think a firm seat will cause back pain. In fact most orthopedists will tell you to sit in a firm upright seat, not sink into a cushy seat to help your back. I think the key to a good position is to keep your knees as low as you can relative to your hips and keep your leg bent. If you raise your knees with the forward tilt or lower the seat to keep your legs straighter, you are tensioning the sciatic nerve and it will complain. Raise the seat, move closer to the wheel and flatten the seat bottom out and you should be fine. Can't comment on the IT band, because I have never had any problems with it. But I have had lower back issues with my Overland. The gas pedal is too close to the seat and I found my right leg was raised and my back hurt. I moved the seat back and that lowered my knee and better supported my upper leg. My left leg doesn't sit fully on the foot rest, but I can live with that. Jeep should have positioned the pedals so that both legs extend equally to touch the pedals and the footrest. The gas pedal is too close for me. I suppose that helps with using the full pedal motion, but with the 8 speed transmission, I find that in normal traffic, I'm not moving the pedal that much to maintain speed right up to 70 mph. In terms of the tail bone, I broke mine in a sky diving accident. So far in local driving, it hasn't been a problem. We are driving to Florida in a few weeks from VA so it will be interesting to see if it acts up.
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Re: Hard driver's seat

I've heard no complaints with the seats in my 2014 Overland, nor do I have any issues.

Sure they're on the firm side, something I'm used to I guess after driving vehicles like the WRX, STI, Evo, and BMWs.

Try sitting on the way too soft & flat leather seats in the new 2015 Chrysler 200...you'll absolutely love the seats in your Overland.
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Re: Hard driver's seat

2013 altitude drivers seat is very uncomfortable! It was OK for a while, but seems to have "flattened out" over time. 17,000 mi. My previous vehicle was a 2006 Chrysler 300 SRT8 and had the same issue. I tried using various cushions and pads but nothing helped. Chrysler/jeep needs to spend a couple of extra bucks and make a good quality seat that will last a lot longer than what they now offer. If that means adding a few hundred on to the price of the vehicle, I for one would gladly pay.
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Different foam is used in the different models. You can find the Chrysler # on your build sheet. Have yet to find its corresponding foam comfort index number, but I think higher is better for support and comfort. I found our LTD very comfortable on 10+ hour stints during a fall road trip, but everyone is built different.

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