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Old 06-16-2014, 04:04 PM
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Help with 2011-13 factory bi xenon to 14 bi xenon

Ok guys, need some help with identifying and sourcing connectors. I am hoping to make a harness to adapt the factory 2011-2013 harness to the 2014 bi xenon lamp for vehicles that had factory HID already. I don't want to do any splicing or disassemble any connectors. I want to plug in a harness to the existing factory harness and convert to the 2014 connector. I have lifetime max care so I don't want to permanently alter any wiring. I haven't actually removed my bumper cover to get at my headlights so I'm hoping those of you that have can help with some information, good photos, and leads on where to buy various connectors.

On the drivers side I need to source the 6 pin connector, and it sounds like Mopar P/N 68052582AA or 68032864AA will fit the bill. Are there any other sources for this?

To adapt the 3157 socket I could go the route of a 3157 base to pig tail adapter, though I would prefer to eliminate the 3157 socket and connect directly to the 3 pin connector that the socket plugs into. Anybody know what style that is and where I can source the connector? The base to pig tail can be found here so I'm ok if I HAD to go that route:

Automotive Car Truck Light Bulb Connectors Sockets Wiring Harnesses Receptacles

Same as above goes for the turn signal. I CAN buy a socket base to pig tail adapter, but would rather eliminate the light socket and go right to the 3 pin connector if anybody can point me in the right direction.

The small orange running light I won't need at all so no need to worry about it.

The last connector is a 4 pin connector that I can't find any details on. If anybody has any feedback on this connector and/or photos I would appreciate it. I see it on my passenger side lamp but I can't reach in to disconnect it and get a good look.

For the passenger side I believe the 12 pin connector that is on the factory harness is this:

12 CIRCUIT DUAL ROW 2X6 MX150 FEMALE CONNECTOR 33472-1201 - 38413

Can anybody confirm? If this is the case, then I would need this to start the conversion from the 2011-13 12 pin to the 2014 16 pin:

12 CIRCUIT DUAL ROW 2X6 MX150 MALE CONNECTOR 33482-1201 - 38412

To connect to the 2014 lamp I assume I will need:

16 CIRCUIT DUAL ROW 2X8 MX150 FEMALE CONNECTOR 33472-1601 - 38415

Based on some photos I've seen. Can someone confirm?

Last is the issue with going from incandescent to LED. I assume I will need a couple resistors. Can someone with LED experience help me out and point me in the right direction?

As soon as I can source all the components I'm ready to order them all and get some 2014 lamps...
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Re: Help with 2011-13 factory bi xenon to 14 bi xenon

MxRacer seems you are hard at work.

To make a complete Plug and play adapter here are the loose ends you have to tie up.

You only need the Male side of the 12 pin connector. and you need the metal pins they are sold separately from the connectors.

You need to find Two male plugs that would match the auto level motors. ( Can't seem to locate anything equivalent)

You need to find a male plug to match the driver side headlight (I can't seem to find an aftermarket equivalent for the male or female of this connector)

You need the 16 pin connector. ( also need some female metal pins to go along with this)


For the park lights, turn signal and DRL you may just have to use the 3157 and 7443 bulb bases that the harness makers have been using.


I wish you the best of luck on your search because the only way I have determined that you will be able to get the missing male plugs is to.

Buy a junk left side headlight and cut the male plug out.

For the male leveling plugs again off of a junked headlight and carelfully the plugs off the motor and solder on the wires.
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Re: Help with 2011-13 factory bi xenon to 14 bi xenon

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MxRacer seems you are hard at work.

To make a complete Plug and play adapter here are the loose ends you have to tie up.

You only need the Male side of the 12 pin connector. and you need the metal pins they are sold separately from the connectors.

You need to find Two male plugs that would match the auto level motors. ( Can't seem to locate anything equivalent)

You need to find a male plug to match the driver side headlight (I can't seem to find an aftermarket equivalent for the male or female of this connector)

You need the 16 pin connector. ( also need some female metal pins to go along with this)


For the park lights, turn signal and DRL you may just have to use the 3157 and 7443 bulb bases that the harness makers have been using.


I wish you the best of luck on your search because the only way I have determined that you will be able to get the missing male plugs is to.

Buy a junk left side headlight and cut the male plug out.

For the male leveling plugs again off of a junked headlight and carelfully the plugs off the motor and solder on the wires.
Yes, I've certainly been scouring the web and these forums for information. Between your projects and pbalias (HUGE helps, BTW!), along with various connector diagrams and other sources I was able to put together a map that I want to confirm with Peter (if he cleans out his PM's ), and lined up what I THOUGHT I needed for connectors. Sounds like I'm just about there if I correctly identified the 12 pin and 16 pin connectors. The 6 pin on the drivers head light looks like Mopar P/N 68032864AA is the same that is molded onto the lamp housing (based on the photo of the connector on the wiring harness). So that means the only hold up is the 4 pin leveling motor connector (thanks for identifying, I didn't know what the 4 pin connector was for). I wonder if the leveling motors can be purchased independently. If they are and they are cheap enough I would cannibalize a pair.

I feel like I'm really close to having something that is plug & play...but if you have been working at this for some time already and haven't found anything, I don't think I'm going to have much luck either.
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Re: Help with 2011-13 factory bi xenon to 14 bi xenon

Ok, took a quick look with a good LED flashlight and got some info off the leveling motor. Valeo makes them, found 2 numbers on it that I'm going to start looking up - PPGF20 and 89077898. I'll see where these take me, and maybe I'll try and get in touch with Valeo and see if I can get any useful information. My guess is I'm not going to get anything out of them being that their only contact information is a phone number to France...and I don't speak French. I can get by with Spanish, but French....

Anybody here speak French want to call Valeo for me?
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Re: Help with 2011-13 factory bi xenon to 14 bi xenon

Looks like I MIGHT have gotten lucky. I found a site that supposedly had 3 leveling motors from a Durango. I bought a pair since they were only $9.98 each. Hopefully they have them because their ebay listing for one of them had ended because the item wasn't available.

I should know soon...if they never show I'll just dispute with PayPal if I can't get them to refund me. If they do show up I'll see if I can cannibalize them for the connectors. If I can do that, then I'll move ahead with getting the rest of the parts. Once I have all of them in I'll pull the bumper cover or just remove the intake to get to the driver side, and try and move the coolant recovery bottle to get at the passenger side to verify what I have is correct. All looks good I'll source some 2014 lamps!

Guess then I'll have to get ready to swap the 2014 Summit bumper, etc.
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Re: Help with 2011-13 factory bi xenon to 14 bi xenon

You still need the junked headlight.


That is the only source for the male 6 pin.

Try some salvage yards in your area maybe they have a crashed WK2 that you can get the Part off of.


You are only making a pair of adapter plugs.


Right side: connections into 16 pin
Male 12 pin
Male leveling motor
3157 bulb base
7443 bulb base

Left side: connections into 16 pin
Male 6 pin (from old headlight)
Male leveling motor
3157 bulb base
7443 bulb base


Don't for get to add load resistors to the turnsignal wires

Making the adapters is not a big deal it is getting the parts to make the plug and play
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You still need the junked headlight.


That is the only source for the male 6 pin.

Try some salvage yards in your area maybe they have a crashed WK2 that you can get the Part off of.
That stinks if that is the case...BUT if you will indulge me for a moment -

I believe in one of your posts about converting the 2011-13 halogen to 2011-13 bi xenon you specified mopar P/N 68052582AA as the required part to connect to the drivers head light, right? I confirmed by going to:

Mopar Connection Repair Kit

And looking up the connectors on the head lamp of the 2011 w/bi xenon (pic attached). This certainly looks like the photo of the connectors you shared earlier. I did a check on the web, and the corresponding connector to 68052582AA supposedly is 68032864AA. I looked that up as well on the site listed above and it looks like it matches perfectly. What is different on the lamp assembly? If 68052582AA will connect to the lamp, then the lamp must match 68032864AA and I should then be able to use that to connect to the factory 6 pin that is there, right? Or wrong? What am I missing?
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Re: Help with 2011-13 factory bi xenon to 14 bi xenon

My friend you have stumbled into something. That looks like a match to me.

I just wish we could find those connectors in the after market it would make for a less expensive option for this upgrade.

Now do the same thing and find a match for the leveling motors


I saw you mentioned that you want to add the Summit front end?

The Summit and the SRT are in the same boat they have the same fender flares that won't match with the rest of 2011-2013. Were you planning to do a complete swap?

Front and rear bumper covers
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My friend you have stumbled into something. That looks like a match to me.

I just wish we could find those connectors in the after market it would make for a less expensive option for this upgrade.

Now do the same thing and find a match for the leveling motors
I kept checking...and checking again...and checking again. I just couldn't see why this setup wouldn't work! Tenacity and google....

My brother had his own custom car shop for a while doing custom interiors, convertible tops, and paint. I got in touch with him last night to see what he could do to find connectors that match the leveling motors. Hopefully I'll have that pair in hand that I ordered soon and that might make sourcing something easier if he can't find anything out.
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I saw you mentioned that you want to add the Summit front end?

The Summit and the SRT are in the same boat they have the same fender flares that won't match with the rest of 2011-2013. Were you planning to do a complete swap?

Front and rear bumper covers
Wheel arch flares
Rock sill moulding
...I guess I did until this!

I hadn't looked closely enough I guess at the fender flares. I figured I'd take things a step at a time - get the lights in first. Then take care of the gap. Then look into the Summit front end. I knew it was POSSIBLE to fit the '14 Summit bumper, etc. Just wasn't aware anybody had done it, and I wasn't checking yet. Well...I guess that means I might stop at the lamps and figuring out something to handle the gap.

At any rate, I have the lamp hurdle to clear first!
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Re: Help with 2011-13 factory bi xenon to 14 bi xenon

Sounds like the leveling motors are shipping today from CA. I should have them in a few days and then I'll see about getting the connectors off that I need intact. If I can get those, I'll order the 12 pin connector, a couple 16 pin connectors, the mopar 6 pin, and some bulb base to pigtail adapters. The only thing I think I'm not clear on right now is what resistor I will need. 50W 6 Ohm? 50W 3 Ohm? Something else?
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Aaron looks like you've been kicking ass on your hunt. I just responded to your PM. Sorry man I just got back from an unexpected hiatus.
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