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LED Bulbs in Reflector Housing?

Hey guys,

I just finished the JW Speaker Fog light upgrade on my 2011 WK2 and it looks fantastic. Unfortunately, it looks so fantastic that my headlights look dim and yellow in comparison (they are the standard halogens).

I've read a lot of different methods to upgrade the headlights, everything from projector retrofits to swapping out the housings (expensive). Has anyone tried replacing the stock low beams with an H11 LED bulb? See: H11 Philips LED bulb | H16 Philips LED bulb | H8 Philips LED Fog bulb.

I know using HID bulbs in reflector housings is a no-no, but do the same issues apply to LED bulbs? I'm hoping to upgrade the color and light output without having to completely swap out the housings.

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Hey guys,

I just finished the JW Speaker Fog light upgrade on my 2011 WK2 and it looks fantastic. Unfortunately, it looks so fantastic that my headlights look dim and yellow in comparison (they are the standard halogens).

I've read a lot of different methods to upgrade the headlights, everything from projector retrofits to swapping out the housings (expensive). Has anyone tried replacing the stock low beams with an H11 LED bulb? See: H11 Philips LED bulb | H16 Philips LED bulb | H8 Philips LED Fog bulb.

I know using HID bulbs in reflector housings is a no-no, but do the same issues apply to LED bulbs? I'm hoping to upgrade the color and light output without having to completely swap out the housings.
Here's a thread for you to read through:
What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

The verdict seems to be to avoid the cheap Ebay items and go with something quality like V-LEDs or GTR Lighting:
Headlights - LED Conversion Kits - GTR Lighting
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Re: LED Bulbs in Reflector Housing?

I've been trying to come up with a solution to get some better light out of mine (also stock halogens), but it doesn't seem like there are many solutions without the somewhat big drawbacks, in my opinion. I do find the halogens to be a bit dim and too yellow (color isn't the issue really), but the biggest problem is they aren't throwing light far or wide enough.

After reading through this thread, What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?, it seems like the GTR Lighting LED kit is probably the best option for using LEDs in the stock housing, but the beam cutoff is still pretty bad and they still don't throw light like an HID, from the looks of the user submitted test photos. I really don't want to blind oncoming traffic too because I know how annoying that is to experience.

HIDs in the stock housing also seem like it has its share of drawbacks too that I wouldn't want to commit that much money and effort to get those results. Sounds like people get the random shadows, hot spots, flickering and they still don't throw the light like they do with the HID housings. So it definitely isn't a solution for me.

Now the only other option is to do a complete retrofit and get inside the housing to add some new projectors, which is a huge DIY undertaking or a huge chunk of $ to be professionally done, if I can even find some place that will do it locally.

*sigh*

Sorry for the bit of a rant, just thought I'd share my findings and thought process so far. If anyone has any insight, please feel free to chime in too.
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Re: LED Bulbs in Reflector Housing?

Well, if anybody is interested: I decided to remove the LEDs and put halogens back in. These were just too bright and the beam pattern was scattered everywhere. Even after adjusting them way down I was getting flashed on the road. On top of that, they flickered pretty bad occasionally. I'm going to look into doing an SRT8/Limited housing swap with the jeep_addicted harnesses.
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Re: LED Bulbs in Reflector Housing?

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Now the only other option is to do a complete retrofit and get inside the housing to add some new projectors, which is a huge DIY undertaking or a huge chunk of $ to be professionally done, if I can even find some place that will do it locally.
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I've pretty much come to the same conclusion.
A real HID projector retrofit is the only way to go.
AND I have the load leveling rear struts so I don't have to worry about blinding people if I have a load in the back.

However...
I think the way to do it is to buy some aftermarket headlights to do the retrofit.
Why you ask?
#1 - chances are the aftermarket headlight units are butyl sealed rather than melted together which would make them easier to get apart without damage.
#2 - you can buy the aftermarket lights and the HID projector kit and then work on them at your leisure and not worry about getting the front end put back together in time to go to work on Monday.

Now I just need to talk the wife into letting me drop about $650-700 on the lights and HID projector kit.....
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Re: LED Bulbs in Reflector Housing?

The Philips Ultinon LED bulbs are a great upgrade for fog lights but we don't recommend them for headlight applications at this time. We simply haven't received enough feedback from customers. Although 40% brighter than a halogen, LED's have different beam patterns. You may find they aren't bright enough for a low beam headlight application. I would recommend a XenonDepot HID kit in the headlights as HID is 2-3 times brighter than halogen. The Philips Ultinon LED bulbs will give more light in a fog light application and are great for color matching fogs with HID's though.

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