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So I'm confused. If the pics you posted are MY15, then how can it be these rails won't fit?
I agree they are not just "plug and play" having read many posts about what a pain they are to install either by dealer or the DIY crowd.
I have instructed my dealer to do what they need to in order to get them on.
I have also found some helpful tips on another forum that may help resolve.
The one I posted was a hemi MY15, it was suggested by another CRD owner that the rails wouldn't fit because of something to do with the pinch weld or DEF system or something.

But I have no concrete answer on that, just repeating what has been told to owners by parts suppliers, could be BS.

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Re: Mopar Rock Rails - Not Happy.

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This guy's installation video, while long, is full of useful tips to getting the Mopar rails installed. The problem with dealer techs is that they only have the Mopar instruction sheet, which isn't nearly complete enough to deal with some of the issues that you run into.
Biggest tip (I wish someone had told me this before I started), and mentioned in the video, make sure all the bolts and nuts thread on without any friction. I still have one nut that just won't thread on......
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Re: Mopar Rock Rails - Not Happy.

OK here was the thread I was talking about, it sounds like its the new DEF plate that interferes with the rail install.

Not available? Mopar Rock Rails for 2015 JGC Diesel
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Re: Mopar Rock Rails - Not Happy.

Thanks for all the feedback on the Mopar rock rails. I think we are going to install those on this WK2. Hopefully they'll hold up ok. Seems like no one is running the RRO rock rails since I couldn't get any feedback on them.
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Re: Mopar Rock Rails - Not Happy.

LJ what year is your unit?
My bodyshop guy is going to take a run at my 2015 EcoDiesel next week
I am pretty confident it will get done
I will post pics with rails when complete
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Re: Mopar Rock Rails - Not Happy.

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LJ what year is your unit?
My bodyshop guy is going to take a run at my 2015 EcoDiesel next week
I am pretty confident it will get done
I will post pics with rails when complete
My rails are going on a 2011 GC Laredo. I expect to spend most of a full day installing these along with the factory skid plates and front tow hooks (the Jeep has a rear trailer hitch already). It's really too bad this Jeep didn't come with these off-road necessities installed, but I'm actually looking forward to the install project.
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Thanks for all the feedback on the Mopar rock rails. I think we are going to install those on this WK2. Hopefully they'll hold up ok. Seems like no one is running the RRO rock rails since I couldn't get any feedback on them.
Hey Dave,
I am currently running the RRO Supersliders. I am planning on replacing them with the Mopar Rock Rails soon. The RRO rails are definitely beefy but there are two reasons why I plan on replacing them...

1. Most people already know this but the rails don't extend all the way along the rocker panel. I didn't realize this when I ordered them. The pictures on their sight make it look like they almost reach the whole way and they are quite a bit short.

2. I have a Summit and the rocker trim piece on the summit is actually a little larger than that of the other models so the part of the RRO Superslider that bolts to the pinch weld sits down about a 1/2" too far when the trim is left on so you can't attach it. The only solution was to remove the trim piece, leaving the Jeep looking "unfinished" under the doors.

My jeep is also the Diesel so I am a little worried about fitting the Mopar rock rails but if it is the new DEF plate that causes the issues, I shouldn't have a problem because mine was one of the last ones produced without it and I have DOM's DEF protection plate. I personally installed both the DEF plate and the RRO Supersliders (and all my skid plates for that matter) so I am pretty familiar with the underside of my Jeep and I don't see how the Mopar rock rails would interfere with DOM's plate so I should be good. If it is a matter of holes not lining up, I have no problem drilling new holes to get it to work.
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Hey Dave,
I am currently running the RRO Supersliders. I am planning on replacing them with the Mopar Rock Rails soon. The RRO rails are definitely beefy but there are two reasons why I plan on replacing them...

1. Most people already know this but the rails don't extend all the way along the rocker panel. I didn't realize this when I ordered them. The pictures on their sight make it look like they almost reach the whole way and they are quite a bit short.

2. I have a Summit and the rocker trim piece on the summit is actually a little larger than that of the other models so the part of the RRO Superslider that bolts to the pinch weld sits down about a 1/2" too far when the trim is left on so you can't attach it. The only solution was to remove the trim piece, leaving the Jeep looking "unfinished" under the doors.

My jeep is also the Diesel so I am a little worried about fitting the Mopar rock rails but if it is the new DEF plate that causes the issues, I shouldn't have a problem because mine was one of the last ones produced without it and I have DOM's DEF protection plate. I personally installed both the DEF plate and the RRO Supersliders (and all my skid plates for that matter) so I am pretty familiar with the underside of my Jeep and I don't see how the Mopar rock rails would interfere with DOM's plate so I should be good. If it is a matter of holes not lining up, I have no problem drilling new holes to get it to work.
So, I installed the MOPAR Rock Rails over the weekend on my 2015 Summit Ecodiesel. The definitely fit. It wasn't the easiest install but they fit without any modifying of the Rock Rail or the Jeep. The first side took all day. The second side took about 3 hours because of lessons learned. If anyone needs help with this, I will be glad to answer any questions and provide some tips that helped us the second time, just PM me. I will also probably get around to putting it all up on my build thread in the next couple weeks. Thanks and good luck!
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Re: Mopar Rock Rails - Not Happy.

I had been wanting to put a set of the "tube-type" rails on my Trailhawk so I bit the bullet and ordered a set from my local dealer. Jeep should have installed the tube type rails on the Trailhawks from the get go!

Best advice if your going to install your own.

1) Buy a metric 6mm / 1.0 thread pitch plug tap (about $8.00) and a can of WD-40. Run the tap through the "nuts" that are welded to the rail that will bolt up against the pinch weld seam under the vehicle. The nuts will be full of powder coating and some weld splatter. Don't use the bolts in the kit to clean the threads.

2) Roll the Jeep up on some 2x10 boards, just that little bit of extra clearance helps.

3) Having a buddy help lift the new rail(s) into position helps but isn't necessary.

4) On the body pinch weld seam(s), 8 holes per side, elongate the holes about 1/16" on each one of the holes. You don't want to make the hole bigger in diameter, just want to remove a little material on the sides (horizontal).
I also took the time to apply some rust-oleum paint along the edges of the holes.

4) NOTE: The instructions say to first lift the rail up and loosely bolt it to the body pinch weld seam (under the vehicle).

DON'T do this because it will be a royal pain in the arse to get the rail up and over the 12 bolts that are up along the side of the body. These are the bolts you see when you open the doors.

This is where the "buddy" comes in handy. Instead, lift the rail up and position it over the 12 bolts (by the doors) and loosely attach the flange nuts. Next use a couple of jacks to raise the rail up to the body pinch weld seam.

Now you can check for hole alignment and make sure you can start all the bolts with just your fingers.

Then put the stifferner bar up to the pinch weld seam and start inserting the 8 bolts. Having elongated these holes on the pinch weld seam just makes this process sooooo much easier.

Once all the nuts and bolts are snug, including the flag bolts that come up from the bottom of the rail (3 per side) go back and torque everything to spec.

Done.
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Re: Mopar Rock Rails - Not Happy.

Just back from a weekend in Moab and my Mopar Rock Rails more than paid for themselves (along with the skids). I already had a few scrapes along the rails, but this trip made sure both sides are marked. So glad my doors and sills didn't take the damage! I can also report one side can take almost the full vehicle weight and still allow the doors to open and close.


Had a dealer do the install, and glad they quoted me an install price beforehand. Charge me 1.5 hours instead of the 6.5 it took. As with the OP, my first 2 sets were sent back due to damage, so it took almost 3 months between my order and my install (also backorder).

I had looked at the RRO rails, as the company is less than 10 miles from my house, and prefer to support the local company, however the fit and finish is just nowhere near the Mopar rails. Also, as mentioned before, the end-to-end coverage is a must with our low WK2 sills.

As kind of an aside, does anyone know the paint code for the rock rails? I haven't been able to find it yet, but would like to paint over the new pride marks before they get rusty.
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I've had the TrailHawk rails on my limited since day one - they are strong enough to use as a jack point anywhere along the side. Very pleased with them.


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