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Re: New OEM 2015 SRT LED fog lights installed in High Altitude. Pictures and install!

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Had a chance to do some night driving with the new fogs and headlights this weekend so I thought I'd share my impressions since this is the thread that kicked off my desire to make the switch. I was previously running the factory HID headlight bulbs and a pair of 6K Phillips LEDs in the fogs. I switched to Phillips 6K Utlinons in the headlights and the SRT LED fogs.

Conditions: Rain, light rain, fog, drizzle, and a little clear driving in both the city and some back country roads.

SRT Fogs: Wow. That's pretty much all I can say. The previous reports of how awesome the light output is were not exaggerated. I was happy with the Phillips LED fogs and wouldn't hesitate to recommend those bulbs but these integrated LED housings just blow them away. Great coverage and a very bright white light on the ground (bordering on a purple hue, imo). Great in all conditions.

6K Utlinons: I debated long and hard between the Osram 5K CBI bulbs and the more expensive Phillips 6K and ended up leaning towards the 6K simply because of how yellow my factory HIDs looked compared to my 6K LED fogs. I was worried that the 5K CBI wouldn't be enough of a difference vs the 4300K stock bulbs to compete with the new SRT fogs (which I anticipated being brighter than the LED bulbs). In the end, I don't think anything can compete with the SRT fogs but I think, from a color on the ground standpoint, the 6K is a decent match. The problem is, and it was one of my concerns going in, the lower lumens just get completely overpowered.

To me, the Utlinons left a lot to be desired at their price point. In the city, the streetlights seemed to easily wash out their beams. The same was true on the highway in the rain. The color on the ground didn't appear to be particularly bright or white. It wasn't until I was out of the city with less/no ambient light that I could tell the true color temp. If I had only these headlights and no fogs, it would have been hard to see in the rain and traffic of the city/highway (where you need your beams to cut shadows). At this point, I'm seriously considering switching to the CBIs but I have more money tied up in bulbs then I want until I sell my H11 fogs.

Overall: With the headlights and fog lights both on, the visibility was great. Much/most of that is owed to the fogs which are amazing but I thought the light from both blended very well. I noticed a difference in the color temp (with the headlights looking almost yellow vs the almost purple hue of the fogs) only when I toggled the fogs on/off. With both on, my eyes didn't naturally notice a definitive cutoff between the two (like they did with my previous stock bulbs and 6K led fogs). However, I think some of that might be because of the lackluster performance of the Utlinons.


The above thoughts are based solely on my impressions from behind the wheel. I didn't drive up to a wall to compare color (don't have a garage) or get out to take pictures (it was raining!). Whenever I saw my reflection in another car, both heads/fogs looked bright white (no tint). I am, by no means, a bulb expert (or color expert). I threw a pair of Phillips Xtreme Vision in my old car probably 10 years ago and didn't mess with them (except to replace a bulb) for as long as I had it.


TL/DR: SRT Fogs Phillips 6K Utlinons.. eh, not impressed.
If you don't like the color of the Ultinon's, you certainly will not like the color of the CBI. They are noticeably warmer out of the box. How things will change for each bulb after 1000 hours, I can't really say.

If you want even more cool temperature lights, try the Morimoto XB35 6000K bulbs. They're only $70 for a pair, and are slightly cooler than the Ultinons. I can't promise they'll be as bright, but they are hands down the best aftermarket bulbs you can buy. The brightness, if not the same, is very close.

HID bulbs take dozens of hours to brighten and whiten. Sucks because then you'd be past the return window, but I'm just letting you know how it goes. There's not really going to be any HID bulb that matches those LED fogs - two different technologies here, and color matching would be very hard. You also need to realize the fogs are lighting up a smaller area compared to the HIDs. The HIDs have to spread their light out more, so it is going to be less intense than the fogs which are aimed at the ground in front of you. I think the LED fogs perfectly compliment the Ultinons and make them appear the perfect brightness and color temp from inside my vehicle. When the high beams kick on, the light output doesn't look nearly as good - wish we could keep the fogs on with the highbeams.

I did a late evening exhaust video, and when I was driving back towards the camera, the light output and color from the Ultinons was gorgeous. I could post up the video if it'd help you feel more confident in the bulbs. But I assure you the CBI are not leagues better - I have both.

I haven't had any issues driving in inclement weather with my setup, and I even have 80% Llumar tint on the windshield (compounded with the 80% transparency of the glass from the factory, putting me at an overall 64% VLT) so my light output from inside the vehicle is slightly blue-green and darker than what I would see from outside the vehicle.

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Re: New OEM 2015 SRT LED fog lights installed in High Altitude. Pictures and install!

I am still going to use my Phillips 5k's I had them in my 14 before getting my 15 so they are color shifted already. I had hids in fogs in the 14 as well which where also 5k's. But I need to buy the anti flickers still.
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:12 AM
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Re: New OEM 2015 SRT LED fog lights installed in High Altitude. Pictures and install!

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If you don't like the color of the Ultinon's, you certainly will not like the color of the CBI. They are noticeably warmer out of the box. How things will change for each bulb after 1000 hours, I can't really say.
It wasn't the color temp with the Utlinons, it was the brightness. I thought the color temp was a decent match to the fogs but I was surprised by how much I noticed the lumen loss. I knew they were less but I figured the fogs would compensate (and they did). That being said, on their own, I was pretty underwhelmed with the performance of the Utlinons at their price point. Again, I'm talking on-road light output only, not looks. It's too bad the D3S don't have the same brightness as some of their other sizes.
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It wasn't the color temp with the Utlinons, it was the brightness. I thought the color temp was a decent match to the fogs but I was surprised by how much I noticed the lumen loss. I knew they were less but I figured the fogs would compensate (and they did). That being said, on their own, I was pretty underwhelmed with the performance of the Utlinons at their price point. Again, I'm talking on-road light output only, not looks. It's too bad the D3S don't have the same brightness as some of their other sizes.
Apart from the mercury presence and igniter base differences, the bulbs are the same and brightness should be as well. I compared the Ultinons directly to the CBI and with insanely fast shutter speeds, the light output was not any different between the bulbs. Granted I do not have a lux meter, but this should be a fairly accurate test as well, at least going by what the eye can see... that's really all that matters anyway. You aren't going to notice 200-400 lumens difference when you are at 3000 already.
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Re: New OEM 2015 SRT LED fog lights installed in High Altitude. Pictures and install!

I've tried stock, CBI, X-treme Vision, and Ultinon.

My vote goes to the Philips D3S X-tremeVision for best light output.

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Re: New OEM 2015 SRT LED fog lights installed in High Altitude. Pictures and install!

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I've tried stock, CBI, X-treme Vision, and Ultinon.



My vote goes to the Philips D3S X-tremeVision for best light output.



Steve

I haven't quite given up on the Ultinons yet but there's a good chance you guys get some more of my money on a pair of those xtremevision. I ran them in my old car, not sure why I didn't give them more consideration here.

Now, to get us back on topic, damn those SRT Fogs are awesome! Thanks JTS for the post!
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Re: New OEM 2015 SRT LED fog lights installed in High Altitude. Pictures and install!

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I've tried stock, CBI, X-treme Vision, and Ultinon.

My vote goes to the Philips D3S X-tremeVision for best light output.

Steve
Maybe i had an off set of Phillips extremes? Although a great improvement over stock, the srt fogs drowned them out and had night/day differences in color.
I did like them with different fogs...just the srt's spoiled me...now i want more color and light from the headlights ..lol
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Re: New OEM 2015 SRT LED fog lights installed in High Altitude. Pictures and install!

Well heck...awhile back had the Phillips led fog go out, switched to the srt...tonight a putco flicker went out on me
..switch to the other side and it follows the anti flicker..(least the fog is good!)
Anyway...anybody else have one go out?
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Well heck...awhile back had the Phillips led fog go out, switched to the srt...tonight a putco flicker went out on me
..switch to the other side and it follows the anti flicker..(least the fog is good!)
Anyway...anybody else have one go out?
I have not had that issue, but I have thought about that before about how long those things are designed to last. I assume yours may have just been defective and died prematurely because of that. Hope these aren't things that need to be replaced every once in a while. I do a fair amount of night driving so mine do get used fairly often. No issue yet.
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Re: New OEM 2015 SRT LED fog lights installed in High Altitude. Pictures and install!

So I'm working on something to be able to eliminate having to use anti flicker harness'......I'm pretty sure you can "add a build code" to your 2014 and up VIN number and reconfigure the TIPM to accept the OEM led fog lights to make this swap a true plug and play. No flicker and no anti flicker harness issues....just install led fog lights plug em in....visit the dealer for a reconfigure and boom done! I will install my led fogs asap and try my theory and report back
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The 2014s are plug and play. Its the 2015 and up you need the flicker module
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New OEM 2015 SRT LED fog lights installed in High Altitude. Pictures and install!

Ok then I will grab a 15 off the lot and throw the fog lights in there at add the option code of the LED fog lights to the vin and you shouldn't have to use a flicker module then
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