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Old 06-27-2012, 09:30 PM
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Re: Orange peel

I'd have to disagree. Orange peel is a defect and it is caused by one if not more of these improper painting techniques/conditions/materials.

Lower than optimal line air pressure.
Thinner evaporated to fast causing blotches.
Incorrect sprayer angle/distance/fanning.
Incorrect spray tip.
Incorrect computer programming for the painting robots.
Incorrect enviromental conditions vs materials used.

All of these conditions are under the control of the manufacturer and if set/done properly the paint will have very little to no visible orange peel.

At the price they are charging for a new Jeep these days. It should be flawless! It should not look like a Earl Scheibs' drive-thru paint job.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:32 PM
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Re: Orange peel

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I'd have to disagree. Orange peel is a defect and it is caused by one if not more of these improper painting techniques/conditions/materials.

Lower than optimal line air pressure.
Thinner evaporated to fast causing blotches.
Incorrect sprayer angle/distance/fanning.
Incorrect spray tip.
Incorrect computer programming for the painting robots.
Incorrect enviromental conditions vs materials used.

All of these conditions are under the control of the manufacturer and if set/done properly the paint will have very little to no visible orange peel.

At the price they are charging for a new Jeep these days. It should be flawless! It should not look like a Earl Scheibs' drive-thru paint job.
had a 69 impala in 85 painted by earl scheib in brooklyn. I got the deluxe where they paint door jambs too. Cost like 200 I think lol. Happened to be a good job. the finish was smoother and shinier lol. I know different paint now yada yardage just thought it funny. Earl Scheib. Good memories
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:06 PM
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I'm not so sure I would trust a dealer to do a good job removing orange peel from a new vehicle I ordered.
I absolutely agree. You need a well respected professional detailer.

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But I really think that the dealer would probably just tell you that the orange peel is "normal" and they won't fix it.
And they would be right. Not something one can expect the dealer to do, but an improvement an owner can do if they want to.

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I'd have to disagree. Orange peel is a defect and it is caused by one if not more of these improper painting techniques/conditions/materials.

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At the price they are charging for a new Jeep these days. It should be flawless! It should not look like a Earl Scheibs' drive-thru paint job.
Then its a defect that exists on basically every new vehicle, even vehicles that are priced far higher than the WK2. The WK2 is a LOT of vehicle for the money. I'd go so far as to say its cheap...

You have to understand the Jeep is a mass produced product, the only finish I've ever seen that was orange peel free is on a Rolls Royce. The finish on the LS Lexus is also pretty peel free because they hand sand them. They don't do that on the cheaper Lexus vehicles though.
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Re: Orange peel

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I absolutely agree. You need a well respected professional detailer.



And they would be right. Not something one can expect the dealer to do, but an improvement an owner can do if they want to.



Then its a defect that exists on basically every new vehicle, even vehicles that are priced far higher than the WK2. The WK2 is a LOT of vehicle for the money. I'd go so far as to say its cheap...

You have to understand the Jeep is a mass produced product, the only finish I've ever seen that was orange peel free is on a Rolls Royce. The finish on the LS Lexus is also pretty peel free because they hand sand them. They don't do that on the cheaper Lexus vehicles though.



Agree 100%. If orange peel in the clear coat meant a paint job was defective, then I have owned about 17 defective cars.
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Re: Orange peel

Gotcha, JTS, not harsh at all; thanks for the information. I didn't realize QC had deteriorated like that. I had orange peel repaired at no cost on a factory ordered car back in the seventies with no complaints from the dealership and fortunately don't have that problem (that I can see anyway) on my JGCO that was factory ordered.
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I don't think that its a QC issue but the type of low emission paints that are being used.
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