Ordered a set of these and hope to get them installed this weekend. I will be having my window trim and door handles vinyl wrapped in gloss black Saturday and I plan to install the bulbs while the guy is working on the wrapping.
I guess i'll be guinea pig as no one else has installed these yet. They came in today and they are genuine osram CBI bulbs. I ordered them off Amazon and they are packaged for the american market under the Sylvania brand. The label on the bulbs is Osram and does have the correct model # for the D1S CBI bulbs.
Here are a couple pics:
Planning to install one of the bulbs during my lunch today (I work a 12 - 9 shift) and will try to snap a couple of pics if time permits and rain doesn't start falling.
The bulbs are in. Gettin in there to swap em is damn tight. Will try to get some pics later when it gets a bit darker out. They are definitely whiter than the oem bulbs and output looks slightly improved. Should match my 5000k led fogs very well. Took a couple pics although it's not dark out yet. The bulbs are still burning in and from what i've heard take about 10 - 15 hrs before they'll get to the 5000k.
Very nice. How much brighter are they than the stock ones? A percentage gain?
Was it easy to change them out?
Are there other brighter choices other than these?
It says 20% more light but I think this is 20% more compared to other 5000k HID bulbs. These should put out the same lumens as the oem 4300k bulbs but with a clean white light.
The process to change them out is pretty straightforward. It's getting your hands in to the tight spots to get the bulbs in and out that is challenging.
The only better choice i've seen are the Osram SVS, but they are I believe closer to stock color, but with more output.
Besides color, the fill of the light seems better. There are less hot spots and more even light throughout the beam.
Thanks guys. Yes, the uniformity of the light color is fantastic. The CBIs are still a bit more yellow than fogs currently but from everything i've read, they will get whiter after about 10 hrs of burn time.
Light on the road has also been fantastic. I took it out to some dark roads last night and the light spread is so wide and consistent it's hard to realize how much they are lighting up the road until you turn off the lights!
I do wish that we had better projectors in our headlights because the cutoff the projectors produce are pretty crappy....
Best I could do tonight. Some of these pics are from the highway during stretches of road with no lights. Overexposed and overall poor quality of photos....but you can get an idea of coverage and color. I'm impressed with the amount of output over a larger area than the OEMs provided. The road signs are lit up due to the LED fogs throwing light all over the place...not due to the headlights.
A quick question, is the housing grey are black to replace the bulbs? I see 2 for the HIDs, one is directly behind the protectors and one is to the side of it.
Thanks
Edit: Also is the JGC 2011 D2S or D1S?
A little confused on what that means? socket type?
Definitely worth the upgrade in my opinion...and they haven't reached their full potential yet. The white is already an improvement for me and i'm more comfortable driving at night. No lost output and my understanding is that the output will improve slightly around 20hrs of run time.
These make up for the waste of money on fancy LED fog bulbs from xenondepot, when some inexpensive 5000k LEDs would have provided the same color and lack of useable light. Oh well...
I got a pair of these Philips 5000K for 89.99 shipped after an SRT8 owner recommendation. I will be installing them within 2 weeks. I wonder how they compare.
You guys do realize that the OEM 4300K bulbs put out more usable light than these bulbs. The OEM 4300K color temperature is the closest to visable daytime sunlight. Thats why all OEM manufactures use a 4300K bulb. A 5500K color temp. bulb of the same size and power will produce less white and more blue light. It says so so right on the box! These bulbs will reduce lumen output as compared the OEM 4300K color temp. bulbs. They may look cool, but in fact will perform worse, and in bad weather the bluer light will diminish your ability to see as compared to the OEM 4300K bulbs.
These bulbs aren't really an upgrade performance wise. If bluer light with less lumens, and decreased poor wheather visability is what your after then these might be for you.
Sunlight is 5500 Kelvin (5000K is direct sunlight at noon). Pro photo studio lights are set to 5500K whitebalance when looking to achieve natural light. The difference between 4300 and 5000 is minimal, while gaining a more white/natural daylight color. It's not like the original poster is switching to 6000K or higher. JMHO
Pro photo studios are indoors & artifically lit and have nothing to do with automobile lighting reqirements at night in the real world. The reason all OEM manufacturers use 4300K OEM bulbs is because it produces the closest thing to direct sunlight for the human eye, under most conditions.
Sunlight can vary from 3250K at sunrise to 6500K at noon on a cloudy day to 8000K at noon in the Northern hemisphere.
The higher the color temp equates to less white and more blue light just like your chart above shows. Not really sure the 4300K pic is as yellow as depicted, though.
4300K bulb output produces more lumens than a 5500K bulb of the same size & power. And at night in bad weather the 4300K bulb that is closer to the yellow end of the color temp. scale will be vastly superior for the human eye than a 5500K bulb with its bluer light.
But if bluer light is what you want because it looks cooler to you, mod away, it's your Jeep :thumbsup: Just don't go near the 6000~8000K bulbs that would really diminish the useable light output of your HID's.
OEM (these are the actual bulbs I pulled out of the headlights) XENARC ORIGINAL
Check the technical data, both are 3200 lm. Never hurts to do a little research before referencing old info.
I've also heard that some brands are using OEM 5000k bulbs...possibly CBI's manufactured for OEM. Mercedes and BMW are the ones i've heard. When I have more time to look i'll grab some info.
OEM (these are the actual bulbs I pulled out of the headlights) XENARC ORIGINAL
Check the technical data, both are 3200 lm. Never hurts to do a little research before referencing old info.
I've also heard that some brands are using OEM 5000k bulbs...possibly CBI's manufactured for OEM. Mercedes and BMW are the ones i've heard. When I have more time to look i'll grab some info.
The marketing of these bulbs may in fact be more of the same bs and hype Sylvania is famous for!
I would not give much thought to the package ads. Their xtravision halogens and almost every bulb in their Silverstar lineup has that same "+30% more light, +20m" line. I wouldn't be shocked if this isn't more of the same marketing bs.
The spec sheet on these bulbs makes the usual Sylvania light output claim of; Up to20 % more light. 20% more light than what is the question!
They list a light output of 3200 lumens, but at plus or minus 15%. (Same as the OEM bulbs)
That could mean they produce as little as ~2700 lumens or as much as ~3600 lumens??? What are are the true specs?
Here are some pretty good pictures comparing stock to 5000k. This is in a Lexus but thought that it would give you guys a good idea of the difference:
The 5000k bulbs used in the pics above are D4S bulbs but our D1S HID bulbs will have the same color and light output. Coupon code JGD1S gets you a $20 discount per bulb.
Are you saying your 5000k bulbs will have the same color and output of the CBIs? Or are you just saying your D1S bulbs have the same color and output as the pics you posted?
Theses are an example of the higher color temp. bulbs I was referring too in my posts ~2800 lumens is significately less light output than the ~3200 lumens that the OEM 4300K color temp. bulbs put out!
any more updates on the performance of your CBI's? How are they after a few days of use? Can you really tell a difference from the stock bulbs? How about the high beams?
Sorry noob question here. Are these bulbs installed instead of a HID conversion kit from lets say xenon depot? Are these as simple as removing the stock bulbs and replacing with these bulbs?
Dont really know to much about HIDs and bulbs so forgive me if this is a stupid question.
DirtyDuc83: XenonDepot 5000k D1S HID bulbs are clear. The color temperature is achieved by a different mixture of salts and gases.
Our bulbs are not going to be brighter then the CBI bulbs however the bulbs are considerably less expensive at $44.99/bulb (using coupon code JGD1S upon checkout).
Jrunr: We offer D3S HID bulbs in 5000k, 6500k, and 8000k as well.
Need a favor from anyone following this. Could you post a pic of your beam pattern of your headlights against a wall, say from 20 - 30 feet away? Im noticing a brighter hotspot on the passenger side headlight. I recall seeing this a bit with the oem bulbs in and im wondering if the increased Kelvin and brightness is just making it more noticeable. Ive hear our Valeo projectors are prone to burnt bowls n such. I figure it would be good to see some images of oem beam pattern before I start pulling the bulbs out etc...
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