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Old 02-02-2013, 02:50 PM
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Re: Power Folding Mirrors?

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I guess one question would be: Are there more contacts on the new switch panel than on the original panel? If so, are there enough wires in the mating connector on the vehicle to match every contact on the new panel?
With regard to the switch panel, the connector was an exact match. There were no extra pins on the switch panel. When I looked at the connector from the vehicle side, there was a wire to every receptor, figure that means it is a clean one-to-one.

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Does that mean you are only getting one (drivers side) folding mirror, or are you planning to install both??
Correct, but it is the passenger side. I figure it will either work with one, or not at all. If it will work, I will go back for the drivers side. I have yet to take a look at the pin-outs on the mirror, but will update when I get to that.

If things work out, I will snap pics for a build thread. If they fail it will be a bummer but at least I will have finally replaced my cracked mirror housing. :-)
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:27 PM
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Got the mirror.... from there, it all goes down hill...

The mirror arrived, right one, powered folding, the works. But, it arrived damaged.

However, I thought I would still give it a try. Dumb idea. You know those projects where you start on them all excited, then as things start to head south, they do so really fast. This for me was one of them.

When you look at your door you will notice that the mirror housing is behind the black trim that holds the tweeter. I thought, you could just remove this to gain access to the mirror and the wire harness.



Turns out, you cant. Plus, it is riveted to the door frame where the two red marks are. It was a pain to get off and a MASSIVE pain to put back on. but there is no way around, you gotta move it to get to the bolts that hold the mirror.

As I was working I noticed that the wires for the mirror connect to a hub of sorts. Well, to get to it you had to remove the whole door panel.



Now, I had removed the door panel from other vehicles in the past. Well, let me just say that the engineer that designed this should get a kick in the nuts. Turns out, there is no way to remove the panel without breaking plastic retention clips Even Apple stuff will come apart (with a whole lot of work) and go back together without breaking things...



Should have found that before starting...

Now, when removing trim, ugly pops and stuff are somewhat normal. So I stupidly kept going. Once I got the the panel off the door, there is that hub where the mirror plugs in. I unplugged the old, plugged in the new, nothing. Would not fold no matter what I tried. The glass moved just fine, but the mirror would not fold. Bummer.

Then, as I go to put the panel back on the door, I find that these retention clips are done. Engineered for one time use. That, and to REALLY piss me off.

So... the tl;dr version is DON'T DO IT!!!! Save the time and money and do something else.

Now I am off to return a mirror to a wholesaler, find the plastic clips that hold the door on with out rattle, and get the right mirror to fix my Jeep...

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Old 02-04-2013, 08:14 PM
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Sorry about what you had to go through to find out it does not work. Was really hoping it would work. Hopefully you can put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
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Re: Power Folding Mirrors?

Many vehicles made nowadays have door panel clips that are a 1 time use only. That's done to keep the panel on tight and not to have any rattles.
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THe Koy sorry about all that drama wiith the swap

But I have removed the door panel on both my jeeps several times and have not damaged any of them. I make sure I used a panel removal tool or a putty knife.


You are correct about the black trim that holds the tweeter the plastic retaining clips on those are one time use but you don't have to pull off the whole thing you just have to move the front out of your way.

And I have a strong suspicion that the mirror would have to be activated in the TIPM like many other functions
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THe Koy sorry about all that drama wiith the swap

But I have removed the door panel on both my jeeps several times and have not damaged any of them. I make sure I used a panel removal tool or a putty knife.


You are correct about the black trim that holds the tweeter the plastic retaining clips on those are one time use but you don't have to pull off the whole thing you just have to move the front out of your way.

And I have a strong suspicion that the mirror would have to be activated in the TIPM like many other functions
Do you have any information on how to do that?
I'm sure the vehicle need to be flashed with a Starscan tool to make this work. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
I ran into the same problem when trying to activate rear fog lights to work independantly from the front fogs, like 2011~12 export models. The headlight/foglight switches for both north american & export are identical??
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Re: Power Folding Mirrors?

Bummer. I was really hoping this would work, as I want power folding mirrors. I had planned on waiting a few years (more vehicles in junkyards from which to choose) and doing this mod. Almost did it on my Taurus (Australia had power folding mirrors on their version, was going to import some from a boneyard) before that vehicle had to be replaced without notice (after having just finished multiple mods).

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Do you have any information on how to do that?
I'm sure the vehicle need to be flashed with a Starscan tool to make this work. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
I ran into the same problem when trying to activate rear fog lights to work independantly from the front fogs, like 2011~12 export models. The headlight/foglight switches for both north american & export are identical??

Unfortunately I don't have access to any MOPAR service techs, all we really need is some sort or scanner that would allow us to make changes to the TIPM and then we would be fine.

Like what the VW/Audi world has with the VCDS software and usb dongle to work from a windows laptop.
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Re: Power Folding Mirrors?

Hey Guys, new to the site, or well, been here lurking a while, just havent had much to say.... I am interested in the power folding option myself and did some research.... I too thought it might have to be flashed but then I found that the mirror functions are actually controlled in 2 seperate door control modules, each with their own software. Based off of this, the final peice to the puzzle may just be the door controller modules... According to a TSB from a different topic, it referenced that the Sales Code of GU5 included this option, which according to the WK2 parts manual gave me the module part #s of:

04602911AG
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I can't promise I will be trying these out any time soon myself, mainly due to the cost of the mirrors themselves, but wanted to pass these numbers along just in case this was the last part someone else needed....
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Re: Power Folding Mirrors?

Pretty easy.

1. Buy the mirrors
2. Buy the switch assembly with folding option
3. Wire up separately from the Jeep. Run your own wiring/relay.

Don't over think it.
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Re: Power Folding Mirrors?

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Pretty easy.

1. Buy the mirrors
2. Buy the switch assembly with folding option
3. Wire up separately from the Jeep. Run your own wiring/relay.

Don't over think it.
Not as easy as it sounds... The switch assembly with the folding option does not have any additional wires coming from it. The signal is either ran across a canbus line or POSSIBLY handled by a varied resistance across two existing wires. Either way, you arent going to have two wires coming from the switch to directly connect to a relay.

Additionally, you only have a single momentary switch, where manual control would require 2 switches, one for forward, one for reverse operation. You could make the single switch operate but would be quite annoying to have to hold it until the mirrors were fully folded before they would reverse back out...

For me, if it isnt computer controlled and operate exactly as originally designed, it isnt worth it...
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