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Powering HID Ballasts

Hey guys, I'm hoping one of you can help me out here. I was working with one of the Xtreme HID kits and found that the harness contacts were too small for the positive terminal in the engine bay and the nearby ground bolts.

Since the OEM halogen bulbs are 55w, I'm wondering if the stock harness provides enough power to run the HIDs without wiring them up to the battery and ground.

Also, if not, did anyone else encounter the issue with the contacts not fitting? I know many have installed these with a lot of success but am not sure if this is just an unspoken issue that you guys worked around.

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Re: Powering HID Ballasts

Take the power from the bus under the fuse cover. Not the jump post.
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Take the power from the bus under the fuse cover. Not the jump post.
I was using the positive terminal in the fuse area but the post (more specifically the threads on the post) was larger than the contact opening.
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Re: Powering HID Ballasts

I held the ring with a pair of vise grips and drilled the hole a little bigger.
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Re: Powering HID Ballasts

Or go to a auto parts store and get battery terminal rings like I did and crimp and shrink tube new ones on.
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Re: Powering HID Ballasts

Thanks guys. Good to know I'm not losing my mind. Grabbing some other terminals wasn't possible with the car a little taken apart, and not what I would expect for a "plug and play" kit. I think this is good feedback for Steve at Xenon Depot as well.


Anyone know about powering the ballasts without the battery harness? I've done some reading on this and it seems it could be an issue at start up because of the higher voltage requirement and could result in flickering from power variances... so probably not a good option, but worth asking I suppose.
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Re: Powering HID Ballasts

Bofa your being a bit picky I would regard the kit plug and play. Plug and play is fitted of wiring it takes all the guess work out and extra questions. People that manufacture for plug and play cant foresee the terminals will fit every manufacturers cars. A little common sense plays a big part. Careful if you do drill them bigger as the drill bites hard in aluminum tearing it. Use a file or dremmel if need be. Or recrimp an end btw you are paying for an upgrade thats why you have been supplied the loom. Anything less and you might as well leave it be.
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Bofa your being a bit picky I would regard the kit plug and play.
You're entitled to your opinion but let's discuss what all is entailed in this install since it's not commonly mentioned. You have to modify the dust caps with a 1" hole to feed the bulb leads. You have to wire up the ballasts to the battery for sufficient draw. You have to swap the positive and negative leads on the harness with larger contacts because they don't fit our vehicle out of the box. These are not unique to any particular brand.

"Plug and play" to me is a simple connector to connector change. Not modifying the vehicle, not modifying the wiring harness, and not having to provide a supplemental power supply connection. I think it's fair to say most people don't have a 1" bit or hole saw handy and don't have extra battery contacts lying around. These are a little tough to get after you've already taken your car apart for the install.

With all that said, I want to be clear I'm not disparaging XenonDepot - their kits are high quality products and Steve is a stand up guy. People just need to be aware of what they are getting themselves into, preferably before buying the kit and removing the intake or bumper.
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Re: Powering HID Ballasts

You have two choices:


1. Use a relay harness


2. Use anti flickering modules.




if you don't use one of those mitigation methods you will get flickering.
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You have two choices:

1. Use a relay harness

2. Use anti flickering modules.

if you don't use one of those mitigation methods you will get flickering.
Thanks. For #2 are you referring to the resistors? Have you tried powering them using resistors and without the harness?

Steve said it *might* be possible but couldn't confirm and didn't want to give out bad info. If we have someone that has done it, I think that would be very helpful confirmation.
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You may have bought a kit for a jeep but it would also be the same kit for other manufactures its just how its done in the industry..
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You may have bought a kit for a jeep but it would also be the same kit for other manufactures its just how its done in the industry..
And I totally appreciate that. It's part of the reason I'm sharing knowledge here so others know what to expect, and also why I'm looking to others for their experience.

At the same time, that also detracts from being able to call this plug and play. For reference, the PnP term originates from computing and is intended to describe simple connections such as a USB keyboard that automatically loads the drivers and is ready for use without modification.
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