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Old 01-22-2013, 09:18 PM
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

Now you guys have me thinking twice about this, if I go with the factory rails do you think two kayaks would be safe up there?
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:37 AM
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

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Now you guys have me thinking twice about this, if I go with the factory rails do you think two kayaks would be safe up there?

The problem with carrying kayaks with the factory rails is the spread between the rails is very short. I tried to carry two kayaks and could not get them to mount with enough stability for my liking. I've since switched over to the RRO rack, which fits the kayaks much better.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:52 AM
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

I was just looking at the RRO rack. Looks like you still need the usable Jeep track first from what I can see on their web site so the RRO rack and track have something solid to bolt down against.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:30 PM
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

just an update on my setup guys

I have taken my car through automated washes and torrential downpours

Additionally I just got back from 1000 mile roadtrip at times doing 95 mph+

Rack/rails still solid , no issues, no leaking
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

So I read the entire thread and am a tad bit confused but I'd like to put on the all black low profile rails like the SRT8's and remove my bright side rails. Will the bolts from my setup work to install the low profile rails?
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

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So I read the entire thread and am a tad bit confused but I'd like to put on the all black low profile rails like the SRT8's and remove my bright side rails. Will the bolts from my setup work to install the low profile rails?
I'm not sure about the bolts, but I'll take your old side rails off your hands
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:52 PM
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

I just bought a 2013 Grand Cherokee SRT8 "Alpine" and consequently I'm new to this forum (though this is my 4th consecutive Grand Cherokee, having had a '94, '99 and '05). My new SRT8 came with those useless black plastic runners up top, each one being held down by six (6) Torx head bolts.

Thanks to tuned8e and his well-articulated description and most helpful photos, I knew what I had to do. I ordered a pair of left and right side roof rails described in tuned8e's text (Part numbers 55079172AI and 55079173AI) from justforjeeps.com.

The rails arrived today and I just finished installing them. The entire process went exactly as tuned8e explained. It was really quite simple. I would say the only part of the process that takes any degree of patience (and not all that much) is the trial-and-error process of getting the front-most and rear-most bolts screwed down to just the right height to allow them to snugly hold the end of the plastic runner without being so tight as to prevent the plastic runner from sliding into place. You need to take the time to get that right "balance" point. To be clear, though, those end bolts only hold the ends of the plastic runner in place. They have no effect on the stainless steel runner that actually supports whatever crossbars you attach to them.

Speaking of crossbars, I installed the Mopar 82212072AC, which I found on eBay for about $230. One thing is for certain: I have no aprehension whatsoever about anything that I fasten down up there staying securely in place. Those Mopar crossbars - and therefore anything I attach to them - are not going anywhere except for where the vehicle goes!

One more thing: My hunch is that the only reason various websites or other such resources mention the rivnuts and bolts would be for vehicles that have a bare roof. If you have the black plastic "functionless" runners, then your rig is ready for side roof rail installation with nothing more than a few tools.

Thanks again tuned8e!
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

THIS MESSAGE IS DIRECTED AT brjp1:

Sorry brjp1, but I really want to hang onto the old rails. If I ever want to remove the new one, I want to have the old ones to put back up there. Surely somebody else on this forum who has made this swap has a pair they'd be willing to part with.

I'm posting this to the public forum because for some ridiculous reason I'm being told that because I'm a new member I cannot post private messages. Sorry.
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

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Sorry brjp1, but I really want to hang onto the old rails. If I ever want to remove the new one, I want to have the old ones to put back up there. Surely somebody else on this forum who has made this swap has a pair they'd be willing to part with.

I'm posting this to the public forum because for some ridiculous reason I'm being told that because I'm a new member I cannot post private messages. Sorry.
Totally understand Stewdog! No worries. I am sure I can find a set on here to try out.

I assume I can reverse the process and wont have any issues? Are the bolts on mine with bright side rails the same as the one you had with the low profile rails?
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

installed the OEM 'Bright side' rails on my 2012 srt.. Tuned8e - great post. exactly what I did but with a little silicone to be sure no leaks.

Brip1 - would be very interested in pics of anyone who has the factory installed bridgt side rails to see exactly what the front and rear fasteners look like (if any). Take some pics if/when and as you remove the bright side rails.

still amazed that the dealerships have no clue. even asked them to pull 1 rail off a floor model Overland, just to see. ...wouldn't do it.. guess I can understand. I got it done myself but again would really like to see exactly how the Overland rails are attached. a million dollar mystery to me.
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

brjp1: Sorry for the delay. I didn't see that you had actually asked me a question in addition to responding about me not wanting to part with my black low-profile rails.

I also would assume that you can reverse the process without any issues. The only possible one I can anticipate is regarding the front and rear end bolts, the ones that are hidden unerdeath the plastic shroud that surrounds the bright rails. The aftermarket installation of these, as described by tuned8e and that I commented on in my very first post, is that it's more or less a "friction fit", as you screw the bolts down just enough to have to firmly slide the black plastic shroud so that the molded lugs on the underside slide underneath the bolt head. However, if the bright rails were installed at the factory, who knows if they have some way of tightening these end bolts down more firmly than the aforementioned "friction fit" process?

If it were me, I'd first remove the four (4) inner bolts that are clearly visible from the top that go through the bright metal rails. Once those have been removed, I'd give the FRONT of the plastic shroud a good rap with the palm of my hand towards the rear of the vehicle. (That much is certain: if it is going to slide off of the front and rear bolt heads, it needs to slide rearward, not forward.) If the palm of your hand doesn't free it, I'd move up to a rubber mallet. I'd be reluctant to get much more "aggressive" than that - hopefully you won't need to.

As to your other question about the bolts themselves, I would assume the bolts holding down your bright rails are the same ones that were holding down the black low-profile rails. The bolts are black, have a Torx head, a fairly large washer-head with a captive nylon washer. Refer back to the excellent photos submitted by tuned8e. It would sure seem logical that the same bolts are used by the factory whether holding down the non-functional black low-profile rails or the functional bright metal rails.

GOOD LUCK! Let us know how you make out.
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Re: Side Roof Rack Rails - NEED HELP PLEASE..

Thank you very much !!!! That helps me a lot !!!
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