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Old 07-12-2015, 11:00 AM
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I read a review a while ago that described the 2014+ GC seats as fealing as though they were carved out of granite and that it felt as though you were siting on the seat vs in the seat. Though i dont feal they are gainite and they do soften with time/use i do agree that they feel that you are sitting on them vs in them. Im 6ft 170lbs so not a big or a small guy but i often feel like im rolling over the edges on them sometimes. They are an OK seat but not the best or the worst i have had in a car. They do yhe job but i would never write them up as a high point. I have sat in different trim levels but i cant really detect much difference, not saying there isnt any its probably just suttle that i dont sense

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Old 07-12-2015, 11:28 AM
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I read a review a while ago that described the 2014+ GC seats as fealing as though they were carved out of granite and that it felt as though you were siting on the seat vs in the seat. Though i dont feal they are gainite and they do soften with time/use i do agree that they feel that you are sitting on them vs in them. Im 6ft 170lbs so not a big or a small guy but i often feel like im rolling over the edges on them sometimes. They are an OK seat but not the best or the worst i have had in a car. They do yhe job but i would never write them up as a high point. I have sat in different trim levels but i cant really detect much difference, not saying there isnt any its probably just suttle that i dont sense
With the better thigh and back seat bolsters my impression is the opposite... that I'm sitting in the seat, not on it. With the Overland seats I don't find myself sliding around or having to readjust my position. That can be annoying as hell.

Again, it comes down to individual perception of comfort.
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Old 07-12-2015, 11:49 AM
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With the better thigh and back seat bolsters my impression is the opposite... that I'm sitting in the seat, not on it. With the Overland seats I don't find myself sliding around or having to readjust my position. That can be annoying as hell.

Again, it comes down to individual perception of comfort.
I think im probably just comparing it to past seats that had higher edges that seemed to hold me better so this is a bit of an adjustment. On another note i hope the leather holds up, my last cars leather looked as good the day i bought it as when i sold it 10 yeats later. Some of the pictures of the leather on these seat after a short time are scaring me a little. Oh well so far so good.
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I think im probably just comparing it to past seats that had higher edges that seemed to hold me better so this is a bit of an adjustment. On another note i hope the leather holds up, my last cars leather looked as good the day i bought it as when i sold it 10 yeats later. Some of the pictures of the leather on these seat after a short time are scaring me a little. Oh well so far so good.
I know when I first sat on this current seat style in a WK in the dealer's showroom I didn't like it. LOL... I was used to the sofa like sinkers I had in my 99 and 02 Limited's. After finally getting that style seat in my 14 it never made my feel like the first impression I had. Weird and I can't explain it.

About the best you can do to limit the leather wear on the bolsters is to limit the amount you slide your butt across them getting in and out. Time will tell, I guess. I actually had more bolster wear on my 99 and 02 seats with the lower bolsters. Can't explain that either... LOL.
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Re: Solution to stiff seats?

A lot of folks think that the main purpose for QuadraLift is to raise the vehicle. It was initially designed with one thought in mind. That was to lower the Jeep to reduce wear and tear on the 'over agressive' bolsters.



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A lot of folks think that the main purpose for QuadraLift is to raise the vehicle. It was initially designed with one thought in mind. That was to lower the Jeep to reduce wear and tear on the 'over agressive' bolsters.







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Lol right. Getting in and out of the GC is awkward. The seat is far in the car.
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A lot of folks think that the main purpose for QuadraLift is to raise the vehicle. It was initially designed with one thought in mind. That was to lower the Jeep to reduce wear and tear on the 'over agressive' bolsters.
And here I thought all this time that it was to keep the DEF injector away from water puddles.
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Re: Solution to stiff seats?

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Lol right. Getting in and out of the GC is awkward. The seat is far in the car.

I think it is for the safety systems to work such as the side air curtain. They need room. I have a '96 Cherokee Sport and a 14 Summit. The Cherokee has the seats close to the door while they are quite inboard on the 14. Quadralift helps since you can lower for entry/exit.


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Re: Solution to stiff seats?

Short story: My April 2013 (MY 2014) Overland had very hard and uncomfortable front seats (build sheet shows "#5 Seat Foam Cushion"). Replacement Summit (May 2014 build) has very comfortable seats, build sheet shows "#3 Seat Foam Cushion".

Long story: The front seats in my 2014 Overland (April 2013 build) were also not very comfortable, due to hard side bolsters on seat cushions - felt like a wallet needed adjusting but was not anything in pants pockets. Left+right side of seat bottom were too hard (I am not small or too large- 210lb 6'). Early build Overland had lots of electronic/software issues (apparently normal as with hard seats!), after complaining to Chrysler Customer Care for over a year (no hardware parts were ever replaced!), a surprise call informed me that they would replace it without cost for mileage since it had issues when new (14,000 miles when bought back by Chrysler). My only cost was window sticker difference between Overland and Summit - no extra taxes, dealer fees, etc. After waiting for new order to be built, it was smooth swap over from Overland to Summit. My thinking was that Summit would be different enough that wife would be more apt to like it. Also crystal granite replaced max steel and she likes the front/back styling better than Overland with erratic electronics.

Without thinking about it, I was pleasantly surprised to find the seats in Summit were very comfortable - noticed it the first time I sat in drivers seat. My wife also commented on how much more comfortable the seats were (I don't remember her complaining about the Overland seats - too many other issues with key fob not detected, LCD/NAV going blank, alarm going off, etc., etc). Software updates fixed some things but not all (1+ year for HVAC/temp readout fix, released after swap was ordered).

I am assuming that seat foam cushion #3 specified on vehicle build sheet is softer than #5. I did not have any choice when ordering. Possibly someone can confirm and replacing factory cushion foam #5 with #3 will be a fix uncomfortably hard sides of seat bottoms.

Summit now has 21,000 miles, seats are still very comfortable, and not a single issue, no service other than two oil changes and navigation update.
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Re: Solution to stiff seats?

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I test drove the MDX today and the difference was vast. The MDX felt like sitting on a sofa and the overland felt like a park bench.

It is the one factor that is making me rethink my purchase and possibly go with something else. Kind of hard to drive the jeep if you cant stand the drivers seat.
The shitty seats in my 2014 Maxima was the number one reason I sold off the car after 4 months. My seats in the Summit are not uncomfortable but do cause me to shift around quite a bit on long drives. My 2013 MDX had the most comfortable seats. My 2014 4Runner also had great seats, too.
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Re: Solution to stiff seats?

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The shitty seats in my 2014 Maxima was the number one reason I sold off the car after 4 months. My seats in the Summit are not uncomfortable but do cause me to shift around quite a bit on long drives. My 2013 MDX had the most comfortable seats. My 2014 4Runner also had great seats, too.
Acura just nails it when it comes to great seats. My 2005 TL has the best seats I've ever experienced in any car and the best lower back lumber support. I am going to trade it on a new Summit (which feel good after 3 test drives) but the seats will be the #1 thing I will miss for sure.

I had an old 1993 Maxima that had the 2nd best seats so it's funny how things change with the newer models. Nissan in general is gone downhill in my book overall and the new Max is one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen.
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The shitty seats in my 2014 Maxima was the number one reason I sold off the car after 4 months. My seats in the Summit are not uncomfortable but do cause me to shift around quite a bit on long drives. My 2013 MDX had the most comfortable seats. My 2014 4Runner also had great seats, too.

Lol you sound like me. I had a 13 MDX and 14 4Runner. I agree that the MDX has awesome seats! My only issue was the passenger seat didn't have an adjustable lumbar on the MDX and I even had the Advance.
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