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Old 03-15-2014, 02:38 PM
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So I started typing this out and soon realized it would have to be explained in short as best as possible because the long version would go on and on.

First, I saw a few user's modest tail light tints that looked awesome and I wanted mine done. I looked around town for a professional to do it, but no one would except one place, only with their own film.

Next, I tried installing some lamin-x myself and failed. Peeled it off and went to the "professional" place to have them do it.

They had tinted my windows before, so they seemed reliable. The first try, they were worse than my attempt with the lamin-x. The worst trim job I've ever seen. I complain to them immediately, guy retries, fails again. They then explain they will have the guy who "normally does the tail light tint do them this time." !!!! Why wasn't he doing them the first time! So I leave the film on, waiting for them to do the work because why the hell should I take it off for them? In the mean time, it looked like shit.

So the new guy has a go a few days later and they turn out way better trim and finish wise. They say the rest of the foggy moisture underneath will go away within a couple weeks. Guess what? It didn't. I just took it back today and the second guy who installed them explains that the first guy "probably used some straight alcohol" when installing and he blemished the lens on the actual tail light...This also explained why my plasti dip work I had done on the tail light bezel had melted away during the first install and he actually tried covering it up with electrical tape...I shit you not. The guy who "normally installs them" explains that he had to remove both tail lights and buff them for a couple hours to get them to look like they did, still f***ed up and noticeably scarred underneath the film with white splotchy buildup. I was thinking it was moisture until it dried and I knew something was wrong. He told me to call them on Monday when the owner gets back so he can decide what to do.

I'm tempted to see what the actual damage is underneath the film, but I'm not touching it until the owner sees it all in tact so there's no question of it being my fault.

But I'm speechless and kicking myself at the moment and I needed to get it off my chest cause, WOW. What happened to quality service? With this b.s. on top of the terrible service I've been getting at Lithia, I'm about to flip out on someone.

The guy said he thinks he could probably buff them out entirely, but I'm thinking it's going to come down to demanding they replace all the necessary lenses with new ones, which is going to cost a pretty penny. I guess I'll see what happens...

*No way 100% alcohol would scar the lens like that either, so that's b.s. as well.
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Old 03-15-2014, 03:01 PM
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Re: Tail Light Tinting - My Experience

Damn that sucks bro. That right there is the exact reason why i sent mine to Scott to get tinted. I knew he did great work and has tinted many WK tails before. Most tint shops are just good for window tint and they offer headlight and tail light tint just to make an extra quick buck. IMHO i would never have a shop like that do work unless they have a really good track record. Chances are the owner will try to wiggle his way out of it and find a way to blame you. Good luck with this mess, hope you end up getting it done right.
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Re: Tail Light Tinting - My Experience

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Damn that sucks bro. That right there is the exact reason why i sent mine to Scott to get tinted. I knew he did great work and has tinted many WK tails before. Most tint shops are just good for window tint and they offer headlight and tail light tint just to make an extra quick buck. IMHO i would never have a shop like that do work unless they have a really good track record. Chances are the owner will try to wiggle his way out of it and find a way to blame you. Good luck with this mess, hope you end up getting it done right.
I had a bad feeling with this place doing the tails from the start, so it's really why I'm so mad at myself. I didn't realize they could f*** it up so badly though.

Thanks for the sympathy. If I ever have a chance to get a second (undamaged) set to send off for a real professional to do, I'd be very interested. Do you have contact info for Scott and any idea where he's located?

*Nevermind. Found the thread you started with his info.
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I had a bad feeling with this place doing the tails from the start, so it's really why I'm so mad at myself. I didn't realize they could f*** it up so badly though.

Thanks for the sympathy. If I ever have a chance to get a second (undamaged) set to send off for a real professional to do, I'd be very interested. Do you have contact info for Scott and any idea where he's located?

*Nevermind. Found the thread you started with his info.
Yeah definitely shoot him a message. I was thrilled when i got my tails back. They looked and still do look awesome! Also when i shipped my tails out to him, USPS must have thrown my box around and broke the edge of the plastic, he said he could fix it no problem and i am still to this day trying to find where it was broken. The man does great work!
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Re: Tail Light Tinting - My Experience

Okay, so I finally have a good news update concerning my tail light tint.

The owner of the shop in question and I finally got together to have a look at the condition of the lights as they were last week with the film tint still on. He agreed that they looked pretty bad and wanted to make it right, but thought that the lenses were definitely fixable if I were to have them put through the paint tint process instead of the film.

Originally, I steered away from painting them because I didn't want a permanent tint that I might end up disliking the outcome of and always wanted to be able to put it back to stock if I ever ended up selling it down the road. For the sake of getting my lights back to a clean finish and getting the look I wanted, I couldn't turn down his offer to do them the "professional way" for no charge, because obviously the film wasn't working out.

He had a look at some other WK2 owner's tints I pulled images of to show as examples, to which he agreed that the quality/look/finish was doable. I wanted to be as confident as possible letting him go to work on them, but considering it wasn't the guy who did the film job the first time, he seemed much more adept at the job based on what he told me and reassured I would like them.

So, I picked Bloo up this last Saturday morning, hoping for the best. Lo and behold, they turned out great and he did a very good job of matching the darkness that I was looking for. I was so relieved that he honored the job and took care of it all.

Yada-yada-yada. Here are the photos:

(Also had the fog light/reflectors done and the third brake light to match. Any specs around the lights or on the car are water drops from just getting it washed. I'll also get some additional photos later today with the lights on.)
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Re: Tail Light Tinting - My Experience

Hate to say it, but what a big f'ing waste of time & money.

Why would anyone actually pay money to tint their rear lights...just so they can make their vehicle more difficult to see at night (safety issue)...and depending on the State, illegal as well?

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Speaking from actual experience, I'm willing to bet that at night you wouldn't know that my tails are tinted and no safety issues day or night. Have you even looked at any of the pics of lit up tails showing the results? Even with my backups tinted my entire driveway is illuminated 40ft back from the street as I back in.
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Hate to say it, but what a big f'ing waste of time & money.

Why would anyone actually pay money to tint their rear lights...just so they can make their vehicle more difficult to see at night (safety issue)...and depending on the State, illegal as well?

Pretty sure I already read your 2 cents on this exact subject from another thread, so it's pretty redundant, but I'll respond anyway.

There is absolutely no problem seeing the tail lights when the brake lights come on or when the running lights are on. At night, you can't even tell they are tinted. And yes, you are correct. They are illegal, but so are the tints that basically everyone does on their front windows at 20%, in states that don't allow it. Also technically not safe.

Just don't worry about it, man. It's not your Jeep, so I'll spend my money how I want. It's definitely not unsafe, otherwise I wouldn't have done it. There is about 70% of the light still passing through when illuminated. I'll show how bright they are with some example photos tonight.

*And what a huge waste mudflaps and a pedal set is. Jeez.
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Hate to say it, but what a big f'ing waste of time & money.

Why would anyone actually pay money to tint their rear lights...just so they can make their vehicle more difficult to see at night (safety issue)...and depending on the State, illegal as well?

As long as their tail lights are visible from 500 ft away there are no legality issues here.... move on.
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Pretty sure I already read your 2 cents on this exact subject from another thread, so it's pretty redundant, but I'll respond anyway.

There is absolutely no problem seeing the tail lights when the brake lights come on or when the running lights are on. At night, you can't even tell they are tinted. And yes, you are correct. They are illegal, but so are the tints that basically everyone does on their front windows at 20%, in states that don't allow it. Also technically not safe.

Just don't worry about it, man. It's not your Jeep, so I'll spend my money how I want. It's definitely not unsafe, otherwise I wouldn't have done it. There is about 70% of the light still passing through when illuminated. I'll show how bright they are with some example photos tonight.

*And what a huge waste mudflaps and a pedal set is. Jeez.
AMEN! All you needed to say was "Just don't worry about it, man. It's not your Jeep, so I'll spend my money how I want." I like how other people think they can dictate how YOU spend YOUR hard earned money. Tinted tails look awesome regardless what the law says.
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At night, you can't even tell they are tinted. And yes, you are correct. They are illegal, but so are the tints that basically everyone does on their front windows at 20%, in states that don't allow it. Also technically not safe.
Don't think so Sparky. Maybe in your State...but not around the Northeast. The ones who tint the front windows in NH for instance get pulled over all the time. Seen it a couple times while shopping in Nashua.

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Believe me, I could care less how you spend your money...just calling it as I see it. If it were 100% safe to tint your tail lights, it wouldn't be illegal in some if not most States.

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Really...that's how you leave this? You're saying that tinting tail lights are less of a waste than mud flaps...something that protects the paint?



I bet my mud flaps ($65) or pedal set ($52) cost less than what you paid total getting your tail lights tinted, will do more towards keeping the resale value, and are legal in all 50 states.

Word of advice: Don't post crap like this if you're going to get your panties in a bunch when someone gives their opinion ON A PUBLIC WEB SITE.
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Don't think so Sparky. Maybe in your State...but not around the Northeast. The ones who tint the front windows in NH for instance get pulled over all the time. Seen it a couple times while shopping in Nashua.

Believe me, I could care less how you spend your money...just calling it as I see it. If it were 100% safe to tint your tail lights, it wouldn't be illegal in some if not most States.

Really...that's how you leave this? You're saying that tinting tail lights are less of a waste than mud flaps...something that protects the paint?



I bet my mud flaps ($65) or pedal set ($52) cost less than what you paid total getting your tail lights tinted, will do more towards keeping the resale value, and are legal in all 50 states.

Word of advice: Don't post crap like this if you're going to get your panties in a bunch when someone gives their opinion ON A PUBLIC WEB SITE.
Sparky? Good one.

Glad you speak for everyone in the Northeast. I'm sure your word is fact on that but I really don't care. It was just an example.

And a huge congrats to you for following the law to the T. There are many laws that I don't agree with in this country and tinting tail lights is one of those things where I don't feel bad at the end of the day for making the car look the way I want when it does minimal tinting of the light output. It's completely safe gramps, youll still see the lights, I promise.

I've also read quite a few threads on here about how much the mudflaps really do for you functionally, which is next to nothing. We could go on and on, I was simply showing you how rude and dumb you sound, jumping onto a thread where no one asked your opinion on tinted tail lights or how I mod my car...but you had to chime in with your unnecessary diss.

You're just a hater and I feel bad for you and your Jeep's mudflaps.
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