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Hi Guys,

Looks like the 2015 model year grand Cherokees may need a relay harness for these to work. I have sent out some components to forum member projectaltitude15, and he should get them next week.

Does anyone if jeep changed anything between the 2014 and 2015 models? I've had 2 people (that I know of) install the h11 led kits in 14 grand Cherokee headlamps with no issues.

Anyone else with a 15 interested in being a guinea pig?

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What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

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****UPDATE RE 2015 GRAND CHEROKEE****



Hi Guys,



Looks like the 2015 model year grand Cherokees may need a relay harness for these to work. I have sent out some components to forum member projectaltitude15, and he should get them next week.



Does anyone if jeep changed anything between the 2014 and 2015 models? I've had 2 people (that I know of) install the h11 led kits in 14 grand Cherokee headlamps with no issues.



Anyone else with a 15 interested in being a guinea pig?



Steve

What about the older model wk1 like 08-10 will these basically be plug and play? For the 9006 led kit



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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

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****UPDATE RE 2015 GRAND CHEROKEE****

Hi Guys,

Looks like the 2015 model year grand Cherokees may need a relay harness for these to work. I have sent out some components to forum member projectaltitude15, and he should get them next week.

Does anyone if jeep changed anything between the 2014 and 2015 models? I've had 2 people (that I know of) install the h11 led kits in 14 grand Cherokee headlamps with no issues.

Anyone else with a 15 interested in being a guinea pig?

Steve
Hi Steve,

Does this mean I might have issues with the HID kit I purchased from you (still waiting for it)? Can you confirm if anyone has installed your HID kit on a 2015?
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What about the older model wk1 like 08-10 will these basically be plug and play? For the 9006 led kit



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Hi - I don't think you will have any issues, but only one way to find out. I apologize that I'm not giving you a concrete answer, but I don't want to say Yes to something unless I'm 100% certain. I'm still not 100% certain why they didn't work in the 2015...

Dabitz - no, i've had 2015 customers install the kit.

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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

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****UPDATE RE 2015 GRAND CHEROKEE****

Hi Guys,

Looks like the 2015 model year grand Cherokees may need a relay harness for these to work. I have sent out some components to forum member projectaltitude15, and he should get them next week.

Does anyone if jeep changed anything between the 2014 and 2015 models? I've had 2 people (that I know of) install the h11 led kits in 14 grand Cherokee headlamps with no issues.

Anyone else with a 15 interested in being a guinea pig?

Steve

Steve,

I have a 2015 Altitude and would love to help out/be a guinea pig. Let me know what info you need from me.


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I have a 2015 Altitude and would love to help out/be a guinea pig. Let me know what info you need from me.


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Thanks Joey,

Got your email, so we'll replay back to you shortly.

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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

Steve-

sorry it took me so long to get here. Work has been crazy the past week.

I finally was going to get more pics to send to you and/or upload of the H11 LED headlights, while driving at night, except mother nature stepped in, and dropped fresh snow on Chicago, the 2 days I actually have time to get pics in normal driving areas (with street lights) and some dark- no street lighted areas. This was totally nullified by the snow, which some people might want to see, but will probably be not so useful for 90% of the people out there.
The Snow just reflects all the light, which wont give anyone a really good concept of how they actually look on a road. Plus its hard to keep the salt and road vomit off the front of the jeep (as you know living in the great white north) so the headlights are "dirty as f@@k"

I can say for certain, the H11 LED FOG lights, illuminate much more road than my HID fog lights did. And the LED fog vs the factory fog is like a match vs the sun.

Another thing that I noticed while testing and taking all the pictures.
I had the LED fog installed on the drivers side, took all the pictures in comparison with my pass side being my HID. I then swapped the Pass side from HID to factory , and took more pictures. Left the Drivers side as the H11.

The TOTAL time the lights were on was about 20 mins, with the Drivers side LED being on the full 20 min, and the passenger side being approx 10 min with HID and 10 min with Factory. What im getting at is the LED actually runs much, much cooler in the housing than the factory or the HID. like literally no heat, in the front part of the fog light glass (the part you would touch from the front of the jeep) the LED side was cool to the touch, and with both the HID and the FACTORY, the glass was Warm, i would almost considered it hot.
so the braided heatsink does its job well. (heat is drawn off the back of the bulb instead of dissapating into the glass.)

I have a TON of pictures I can post of LED vs HID, showing beam pattern, and light output from a distance of abotu 6 feet, about 10 ft, and then 16-20 ft. in a shop, against a white garage door, with the shop lights on AND off. Im just waiting to take some "at night" pictures in real driving conditions, and then I will start to post them. Just need the snow to melt a little, and the roads to clear up.
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I really look forward to seeing your beamshots and cutoff.

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What im getting at is the LED actually runs much, much cooler in the housing than the factory or the HID. like literally no heat, in the front part of the fog light glass (the part you would touch from the front of the jeep) the LED side was cool to the touch, and with both the HID and the FACTORY, the glass was Warm, i would almost considered it hot.
One salient question this prompts is whether the front of the headlamp will be more prone to icing over. I like the idea that the LED is not pumping excessive heat out the front, but it seems that some heat would be beneficial as a "defroster".
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I really look forward to seeing your beamshots and cutoff.



One salient question this prompts is whether the front of the headlamp will be more prone to icing over. I like the idea that the LED is not pumping excessive heat out the front, but it seems that some heat would be beneficial as a "defroster".
you are 100% correct, as I was thinking the same thing. It did snow here, but was powdery, and the light is just very dirty due to IL using salt on the roads.
It hasnt been over like 20 degrees in the past month, so there hasnt been any of the sleet/rain mix to see if it freezes over. The FOG, which are closer to the ground, are not frozen over from the last snow/road mess.
short of just pouring water over it, and letting it freeze I dont have a good answer on freezing yet.
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Steve-

sorry it took me so long to get here. Work has been crazy the past week.

I finally was going to get more pics to send to you and/or upload of the H11 LED headlights, while driving at night, except mother nature stepped in, and dropped fresh snow on Chicago, the 2 days I actually have time to get pics in normal driving areas (with street lights) and some dark- no street lighted areas. This was totally nullified by the snow, which some people might want to see, but will probably be not so useful for 90% of the people out there.
The Snow just reflects all the light, which wont give anyone a really good concept of how they actually look on a road. Plus its hard to keep the salt and road vomit off the front of the jeep (as you know living in the great white north) so the headlights are "dirty as f@@k"

I can say for certain, the H11 LED FOG lights, illuminate much more road than my HID fog lights did. And the LED fog vs the factory fog is like a match vs the sun.

Another thing that I noticed while testing and taking all the pictures.
I had the LED fog installed on the drivers side, took all the pictures in comparison with my pass side being my HID. I then swapped the Pass side from HID to factory , and took more pictures. Left the Drivers side as the H11.

The TOTAL time the lights were on was about 20 mins, with the Drivers side LED being on the full 20 min, and the passenger side being approx 10 min with HID and 10 min with Factory. What im getting at is the LED actually runs much, much cooler in the housing than the factory or the HID. like literally no heat, in the front part of the fog light glass (the part you would touch from the front of the jeep) the LED side was cool to the touch, and with both the HID and the FACTORY, the glass was Warm, i would almost considered it hot.
so the braided heatsink does its job well. (heat is drawn off the back of the bulb instead of dissapating into the glass.)

I have a TON of pictures I can post of LED vs HID, showing beam pattern, and light output from a distance of abotu 6 feet, about 10 ft, and then 16-20 ft. in a shop, against a white garage door, with the shop lights on AND off. Im just waiting to take some "at night" pictures in real driving conditions, and then I will start to post them. Just need the snow to melt a little, and the roads to clear up.
Thanks for the feedback! Looking forward to seeing the pictures

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I really look forward to seeing your beamshots and cutoff.

One salient question this prompts is whether the front of the headlamp will be more prone to icing over. I like the idea that the LED is not pumping excessive heat out the front, but it seems that some heat would be beneficial as a "defroster".
I want to see a pic of the beam spread against a wall from 15-25 feet away to ensure the pattern is not too spread out from OEM with a halogen.

As for snow/ice with halogen versus LED. I've driven through many a snow and ice storm. I can say with 100% confidence that it won't matter. In cold temps and at anything above a crawl, the halogen bulbs will NOT put out enough heat to keep the snow/ice off the front of the headlight.
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