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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

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I am in a similar conundrum. In November of 2015 I purchased the new OPT-7 LEDs at the time. By December 2015 I was filing the first warranty claim - for one of the wires. Then in May 2016 one of the LEDs started flickering. I diagnosed it to be the result of massive rust in every single connector and harness, which led to the demise of one of the flux capacitors. Unfortunately, I had the most unhelpful customer service rep. and I got my replacements at the beginning of July.

Yesterday, one of the LEDs dimmed out and is as good as dead. I filed for a refund. I cannot keep swapping out bulbs or components after just 3 months. I am ready to go back to HIDs for the fog lights. Does anyone recommend a specific kit (I also reached out to Xenon Depot here on the forum but no response yet).

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FYI, my XD bulbs are still doing perfect.

I see they have a newer version out now...
That's correct, the all-new Xtreme LED kits are going to be 22% brighter and feature a few improvements like a clockable base for optimal beam patterns and a 5700K color temperature for a crisp white color.

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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

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...which led to the demise of one of the flux capacitors...
Where you're going, you don't need LED's
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

It's really awesome to see how this has progressed since I started the thread...almost three years ago.

So I have been really happy with the XD lights, they are still doing well. Now that there is a new version, I gotta give them a shot so I have a set on the way to me.
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What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

I am about to order mine as well. Do we need the CANbus addition when we order?

I'm thinking of doing the JWSpeaker 6145 fogs at the same time plus VLEDs Triton amber front turns.

The JWSpeaker fogs are only $278 on Amazon right now!
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

Wow...
The thread that won't die.
It's fun to see my past posts.
I went from "too expensive" and "worried about longevity" to owning a pair of LED H11 bulbs myself.

I bought mine from V-LEDs and about 2 months after buying them they stopped selling the model I have (without fans), though like a lot of others I found that a ballast/capacitor system is required to keep the LEDs from flickering (a result of the signal sent to the OEM halogen bulb by the CANBUS system).

Fortunately, they have lasted so far (I think it's been about a year now).

Right now, if one of them were to die, I would purchase these in a heartbeat:
H11 LED Headlight Kit | H11 LED Foglight Upgrade

I like how the array of LEDs on each side is more like the filament of a standard halogen bulb, which should 'fill' the reflector better.

I noticed with my V-LED bulbs that the light output is more like of a 'spot' than a 'flood' like the OEM halogens, though it does spread out enough to be useful. I know it's because the array on my LED bulbs is shorter than the filament of a halogen bulb.

And yes, it is nice to see how far LED bulbs have come in just a few years, from the cheap Chinese/eBay bulbs to the models offered by reputable dealers right here in the USA (like Xenon Depot).

I also have to say that going forward, ANY vehicle I buy will have to have either HID or LED headlights. My wife's 2016 Lincoln MKX with the HIDs is incredible. No fog lights available or needed. Just wish the LED headlights weren't a silly $4400 upgrade (most of which is for the 19 speaker Revel audio system included in the package).

My message to anyone with halogen headlights (or the crappy OEM incandescent fog lights) who is wondering if the cost is worth it?

Hell yes!

The combination of my JW Speaker fog lights and LED headlights makes driving in snow/rain/fog much easier/safer.
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

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I am about to order mine as well. Do we need the CANbus addition when we order?
I don't think so...unless the controller part is considered the CANBUS. On my 2012, I only needed the bulb and the controller.
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

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I don't think so...unless the controller part is considered the CANBUS. On my 2012, I only needed the bulb and the controller.
I wonder if they started putting capacitors in the controllers?

With my 2012 I had issues with flickering, but not a 'bulb out' indicator. I needed the CANBUS adapters to introduce a capacitor into the system to 'even out' the pulsing from the BCM.

It may be that some people notice the flickering (like me) and others don't. My wife said she couldn't see the headlight LEDs flickering, but I've noticed it with some 120volt LED bulbs or string lights when others say they don't notice flickering.
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

Hi guys,

Thank you for your interest in our new H11 LED headlight kit guys

@JDebler -- wow, I can't believe it's been that long since you posted this thread! lol

@Todd3.6 - Let me know if you're interested in trying a set, and I will do my best to work with you.

You may not need the "canbus" option, but I would still suggest getting it for this application to ensure that the drivers see a stable 12V. The new drivers handle pulsing power a lot better then the previous generation, but there is no downside to using our canbus / PWM component. We've made it super easy to install with the included grommet.

Aside from that, I think you're really going to like the new kelvin temperature. The 5700k Philips diodes produce a really nice perfectly crisp white - almost like a "diamond" white.

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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

I wonder if this product would be a cheaper alternative to the Jeep LED foglight upgrade so many people are doing. I wonder if the outcome would be better than putting a HID kit in the fog assembly?
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I wonder if this product would be a cheaper alternative to the Jeep LED foglight upgrade so many people are doing. I wonder if the outcome would be better than putting a HID kit in the fog assembly?
Depends on your model year.

2011-2013 used one type of fog light that the OEM bulb was basically a 'backup' type incandescent bulb (same wattage as your backup lights).

2014+ uses a different fog light that utilizes an H11 halogen bulb.

So the H11 LED bulb from Xenon Depot would work for the 2014+ fog lights.

Note that Xenon Depot also now has an LED bulb that works in the 2011-2013 fog lights rather than replacing the entire unit.
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You don't want to use an HID kit in the 2011-13 housings...
They are cheap plastic and will melt.

(Note that I do not work for Xenon Depot, I just like what they have to offer and their prices.)
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

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Depends on your model year.

2011-2013 used one type of fog light that the OEM bulb was basically a 'backup' type incandescent bulb (same wattage as your backup lights).

2014+ uses a different fog light that utilizes an H11 halogen bulb.

So the H11 LED bulb from Xenon Depot would work for the 2014+ fog lights.

Note that Xenon Depot also now has an LED bulb that works in the 2011-2013 fog lights rather than replacing the entire unit.
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You don't want to use an HID kit in the 2011-13 housings...
They are cheap plastic and will melt.

(Note that I do not work for Xenon Depot, I just like what they have to offer and their prices.)
I have a 2015 Summit. I've debating between the Jeep SRT LED fog, HID retrofit, or this LED. If cost was no issue, I'd jump on the OEM LED in heartbeat.
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

With the 15+ Models, I cannot say with absolute certainty that the LED kit will be plug+play with the PWM module (canbus upgrade). Our XenonDepot HID kits will 100% be Plug+play, and will work with the PWM module, but I don't know 100% if the LED kits will work as well in 15+ models.
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