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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

For those of us without HIDs, I'm pretty happy with these. Replaced high beam and low beams and these are a pretty close match to my JW Speaker led fogs.

Waiting to see what the reliability factor will be for long term. It is nice to see though that these have evolved relatively fast from fans and load resistors.

I guess at this rate we will be seeing aftermarket laser beam headlights soon!!
(i.e. new concept audis and beemers.............)

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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

Debler did you ever end up installing them??? I got an altitude which has the halogen headlight, debating swapping my fog and headlights out for these
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

I bought both led and hid.

The led did not project at all for me. I went with ddm hid in 4300k.

If I melt the housings again, and I expect to, I'll get new housings. We need light...



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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

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Debler did you ever end up installing them??? I got an altitude which has the halogen headlight, debating swapping my fog and headlights out for these
I reserved this weekend to testing them. I tested one. Here's a quick vid I made...



I left my current driver side Silverstar zXe bulb in to compare. Tonight, I will wait until it is nice and dark and drive around to see the true difference from both a brightness factor but also how far the beam is thrown, etc. I like things looking good and knowing they look good (and they match my JW SPeaker fog lights MUCH better than the zXe bulbs. The Speaker fogs are 4500k, these are 5000k.), but to me that is secondary to the intended use of headlights...which is to illuminate stuff so I don't run into it...nor it into me.

I'll update the thread with my findings and thoughts, likely tonight. I hope they do well.
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

And here's the update.

As it got dark, I went out and clicked them on just for a quick look. Here's a couple of comparison shots against my garage. Of course, the Jeep is on an angle so that might skew things but you get the idea. (Again, LED on the left, zXe on the right.)

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I clicked on the JWspeaker fog lights...

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They compliment the JWspeaker fog lights nicely, I think.

Then I went out and drove around. I made sure my JWSpeaker fog lights were off so I could get a clear determination of what was making what visible. Driving around town, they appear brighter and illuminate things better than the Sylvania zXe. I can tell by the street sighns reflecting more evidently.

I then went and parked shining the beams across a soccer field. I held up my windshield sun shade going back and forth from headlight to headlight, blocking one headlight and comparing the output from the other. Hard to tell for 100% sure but they do seem to throw the beam father than a regular bulb. It is kind of hard to be totally unbiased about this. Of course, I want them to be better, but in taking an honest and objective approach to them, I can honestly say it it appears an improvement overall.

Some things I noticed...

There is less of a cutoff and you can see this in the pics above. It may be because the LED lights fire vertically from one spot instead of the entire length of the bulb. I definitely will need to aim my headlights down a bit more, but that will close the gap between the headlight beam and the fog light beams. I think that may be a good thing, actually.

You can also hear the fan spinning. I can also consider this a good thing...because if it stops, I want to know. I hope it has circuitry to kill the operation if the fan fails. I may keep a fire extinguisher on hand for a while...just in case...along with the zXe bulbs just in case they just die. They claim to have a 30,000 hour lifespan, which is just over 104 days. If that is true, it might take me a while to wear these out.

So there you have it so far. I will continue installing the other one tomorrow. After a while, I will see how they do and report back.
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Cool Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

Thanks for the info JDebler. I too am looking to replace my Silverstar Ultra halogen with LED so I appreciate you trying them out. I went LED in the fogs from KBCarStuff and highly impressed and the Silverstars just look dumb now with the fogs.

Was it fairly easy doing a self-install through the port holes in the wheel wells? I'm not that handy but wondering if it was pretty simple.

You mentioned keeping fire extinguisher on hand . When you had these outside the vehicle in your video, did you feel or sense and heat or the unit getting hot at all?

Thanks again.
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

JDebler, Thanks for the comparison photos & write-up, much appreciated.
If the lights have an expected 30,000 hour lifespan that calculates to 1250 days if the lights are luminated for the total 24 hours each day. So would be a long time until they need replacing in actual life.
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

JDebler,

"There is less of a cutoff and you can see this in the pics above. It may be because the LED lights fire vertically from one spot instead of the entire length of the bulb. I definitely will need to aim my headlights down a bit more, but that will close the gap between the headlight beam and the fog light beams. I think that may be a good thing, actually."

Agreed. I had to aim my down as well after getting flashed a couple times at night on two lane roads.

I don't know if you or anyone else has replaced the high beams as well?
I did.......super bright lights!
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

So a quick update, sorry I haven't been able to post more about it.

Installation was okay. It is hard to get up in there without removing the wheel or what I think is easier, undoing the front of the inner fender lining. It will give you more access and it just a few screws, a bolt and that's about it.

I found a vertical flat surface facing the side of the vehicle on one of the front clip supports. I used Scotch Heavy Duty Fastener strips to mount it. I have good luck with that vs. regular hook and loop velcro or double-sided foam tape.

The one on my driver side seems to have a bit of a flicker to it, but it only seems to be when the engine is running and in park. When the engine is off but the lights are on, I do not see it. I also cannot tell for sure if it happens when driving or only at idle.

I am using this set as a product test for a business application and currently working with the manufacturer as I am to find out why the flickering is happening. I am thinking that I may need to get a "canbus canceller", but that doesn't explain why only one does it and the other one does not. I thought that there was a canbus feature built into the driver box, but I am not 100% sure.

Aside from that, I like them. I don't feel they get too hot, I feel the lens and there is no warmth on the face of it. I am going to continue monitoring that and operation of them while I get the flickering issue worked out.
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Re: What's the verdict on LED headlight bulbs vs. HID?

Definitely interested to see what happens here

I was just dealing with that flickering issue you are describing in a similar installation - I was doing an aftermarket HID upgrade on a new 300S - we literally tried 3 different style "resistors" and even canbus ballasts - still flickered. We reverted the car back to factory for the time being - literally stumped.

Back to this LED product though...

I'm not sure I would feel so great running these LEDs as a daily light simply because you are depending on that little fan to keep those units cool. I feel like I would constantly have that in the back of my mind - as you said - you might carry around a fire extinguisher.

Interested stuff nonetheless - thanks for sharing
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No flickers, no fans, no worries so far.......
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No flickers, no fans, no worries so far.......
Pretty happy overall? No worries of them getting too hot, etc.? You might have mentioned it, but can you post where you got them?
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