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Winch Mount and bumper

I have been working with Rocky Road performance on the possibility of mounting a winch on my WK2. They have had my car for a few days, and are designing some options that they are looking for my (and your!!) opinions on.

Originally I was thinking something real basic (just the fairlead sticking through the bumper), but after chatting with them, they want to build something more along the lines of this:


They have designed a mount, and are ready to build a prototype, but have some questions before they go all in. The thought is that they can do either type – just the winch mount, or the winch mount with the front cover (pushbar, d-rings, etc). The design would be relatively “advanced” to install – take the bumper off, cut the bumper, cut the frame cross-member, drill some holes, bolt the winch mount to the frame, etc….. The winch mount would replace the cross member (and likely be stronger than the factory one).

So – I told them I would gather some info on the interest in doing this.

1. Are you looking for a winch mount for your WK2?
2. Are you willing to cut your front bumper to install behind it?
3. Are you willing to cut the frame cross-member?
4. Do you want the winch mount on it’s own? Or with the bumper?

So – all in all lots of questions – the more info and the more discussion the better for them to decide if they want to produce and bring this to market!
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Re: Winch Mount and bumper

There's a guy on YouTube that has a similar setup.

I like to have a front skid plate instead of the black lower trim and a winch like you describe.

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Re: Winch Mount and bumper

I'm not sure what you mean with your description, is it something similar to the picture you photoshopped ?
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Re: Winch Mount and bumper

They are planning to build something like the youtube video AND one like the photoshop picture - those are the two options they are considering.
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Re: Winch Mount and bumper

If it looks like the one in the pic. I would say yes to all 4 questions. I have no problem cutting the front bumper, but I'm a little hesitant about cutting the cross member. If it ends up being stronger though, I would do it.
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Re: Winch Mount and bumper

To me (just my humble opinion) I don't see why you would put D-rings on it since there are tow hooks just about four inches away?
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Re: Winch Mount and bumper

What are they estimating the costs would be to do this? I would be interested, and I would want the D-rings as I do not have tow hooks on mine. That said I don't know if I would use the winch enough to justify the cost of the project.
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I like the behind the bumper setup nice and sleek looking, but I'd have to have someone install this.
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Re: Winch Mount and bumper

New News! I went in to pick up my jeep today and talked a bunch more with them.

So - the proposed plan you will have to cut through the plastic bumper valance to bolt on, and add the hole for the winch line.

There are 2 variations being considered - the first is to cut the metal bumper to allow for the winch mount to slide in there. The second idea is to make a replacement piece, so you could unbolt the factory bumper, and replace it with one with an integrated winch mount. Cost is the primary factor, as you would have much more metal, etc for the bolt on piece, but a much easier installation. I think they are hoping this forum can help "weigh" that decision - do you pay more for one more easily DIY, or go for the less expensive but harder to install... Cost can't be really determined until they start manufacturing some.

BTW - the spacing looks like it will allow for about a 10,000 pound winch. Obviously different dimensions on the winches will allow different fitment.

They are potentially looking at a build-to-order bumper piece, with a base bumper, then you would have some options - winch mount, upper or lower light tabs, upper push bar, d-ring tabs, etc. So - it could be made to meet what you are trying to do with YOUR jeep.

So - what I saw drawn up is even sexier than the photoshopped picture, and has some great angles that tie it into the lines of the jeep.

Hoping to get some more feedback on this - so they can decide if there is enough community interest to start making them....
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Re: Winch Mount and bumper

Here are my subjective opinonated recommendations:

1. Forget about notching the crossmember. As soon as I hear cutting aka permanently modifying aka blowing the warranty aka insurance issues I get serious heartburn. I think this would work for special order but if they are looking to make some money on this mod by expanding the market I 100% think they need a bolt in solution.

2. Love the idea of replacing the cross-member with a NO-CORE option. I personally would pay up and wouldn't mind keeping my stock cross-member in case I sell the vehicle without the mod.

3. Too much customization makes my head spin. Again, I totally buy off on the idea that some one-off custom builds make sense (for $$) but for the average owner like me just give me 1 or 2 options with some pics so I can make a decision.

4. What is the point of the D-Rings when anyone who cares about a winch already has the tow hooks? What am I missing?

5. Wouldn't mind a bit more in the brush guard department. Not a deal breaker, but such a great mod without a little more piping is bittersweet.

Basically I'm in for a bolt on solution (with exception of some bumper dremel cutiting). I don't mind paying extra for bolt-on at all. Been looking for a sleek and not overly obnoxious winch solution for a while. Keep us up to date!
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Re: Winch Mount and bumper

I agree bolt on is the way to go. I don't need all the bars and what not of a bull bar or brush guard, I just need to be able to have the winch ready to go back behind the bumper protected from theft and the elements. The only thing I might consider is on either side of the roller fairlead some type of light tab. A permanently mounted winch tucked out of the way but always hooked up and ready to go is the way it needs to be. IMO
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I agree a built on solution would be the best. Make a mistake cutting your oem cross member and good luck. I would like to see some options with d rings, lights, and a brush guard.

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