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The 8 speed transmission hasn't shown to provide better fuel economy or performance...but there is an unproven transmission that dealers and mechanics are unfamiliar with, as opposed to a tried and true transmission found in fullsize trucks and other models for the better side of a decade. You do at least get the really sweet gear knob, I really do like that tbh.
I felt compelled to clarify something here. The ZF 8HP transmission has been in production since 2008 and fitted to some high-end vehicles. While new to ChryCo dealers/mechanics, it's a bit of a stretch to say that the transmission is "unproven". I'm sure it's not perfect and not without issues, but what is unproven (at the moment) are your assertions about economy and performance. I drove the new JGC back to back with the current Durango, and while the Rango is quite a bit heavier, you can feel the difference in shifting. I understand the different variables in play here, but am looking forward to the add'l gear ratios combined with reduced shift times and non-sequential shifting. As a side note, It sounds like production of the new tranny for ChryCo will move to the states in 2013, which will hopefully preserve some jobs too.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:34 PM
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I felt compelled to clarify something here. The ZF 8HP transmission has been in production since 2008 and fitted to some high-end vehicles. While new to ChryCo dealers/mechanics, it's a bit of a stretch to say that the transmission is "unproven". I'm sure it's not perfect and not without issues, but what is unproven (at the moment) are your assertions about economy and performance. I drove the new JGC back to back with the current Durango, and while the Rango is quite a bit heavier, you can feel the difference in shifting. I understand the different variables in play here, but am looking forward to the add'l gear ratios combined with reduced shift times and non-sequential shifting. As a side note, It sounds like production of the new tranny for ChryCo will move to the states in 2013, which will hopefully preserve some jobs too.
When was the last time you saw one of those Rolls Royces or something last 100k miles with offroading and towing?

What is unproven are the Chrysler made ZF8s, and how it will hold up to the abuse that a more normal vehicle will experience. Right now, nobody knows how that transmission will hold up to pulling a big travel trailer across country in a 5000 pound vehicle after 30k miles.

Videos substantiate that the new transmission doesn't shift significantly faster than the 6 speed auto. It does shift faster than the 5 speed auto, and I will freely admit that it's a better transmission for the V6. I'm not seeing an improvement for the V8s though.

Getting in to a group that is buying a sizeable number of them in one group and getting a certain amount under invoice is fine, but those prices don't translate over to walk in the door prices. Those are prices based on selling a certain number of the vehicles.

As far as the supply goes, Marchionne himself said they could have sold more WK2s so far if they could keep up with the demand, they simply don't have the supply to do that. Does that mean there's not going to be any sitting on lots? Of course not. It just means that they're not going to be sitting on a ton of vehicles for months at a time, and as a result they have no interest in squandering potential profits to increase revenues.

I'm not saying people are lying, just misrepresenting. Factoring in trade in allowance, not factoring undervalues on trade-ins, not factoring in increased interest rates, etc. Like I said, the dealership can sell you the car at 50% off invoice if they wanted to, but you better believe they'll make that money up somewhere else in the deal.
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Time to trade in the 2011 Durango Citadel for a 2014. Love to interior overhaul as mine seemed kind of boring.
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we love our durango...but my wife wants a hemi. Not sure what to do.....
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we love our durango...but my wife wants a hemi. Not sure what to do.....
Happy wife = Happy life. Pretty easy choice.
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does anyone know if the new 22" wheels will be available to buy from dodge or even be an option or was it just for the shows? They are amazing looking, especially the R/T ones. They would be awesome in satin black. Thanks
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Re: **2014 Dodge Durango REVEAL** Pictures and specs! INCREDIBLE!!!

Erin at the car show said the 22s were a third party option.
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Re: **2014 Dodge Durango REVEAL** Pictures and specs! INCREDIBLE!!!

I attended the NYC car show and was impressed with the Durango Citadel.
A video of Erin talking Durango (not my video):
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Re: **2014 Dodge Durango REVEAL** Pictures and specs! INCREDIBLE!!!

And here's Yvonne talking Durango:
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I need to find out who makes these wheels on the r/t here or where I can get them. I am sure with all the knowledge and insiders here someone has to know. Thanks in advance!
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probably a mopar accessory
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Re: **2014 Dodge Durango REVEAL** Pictures and specs! INCREDIBLE!!!

Thanks Scott, Hope so. I was set on the FR viper 22's till I saw these. My rt is scheduled to be shipped from jnap end of this month. Wanted to get the wheels on ASAP but will definately wait for these.
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